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Originally Posted by mojo6911
It's mostly him talking through basic PIO sims in different spots. No real practical application. There's even a video on how to split an AirBnB or bring a sandwich to a live game.
I have a friend who has this course and he says he likes it. I haven't seen it myself though. Does he explain though why the solver does what it does? If he just says what the solver does without further expanding on that with unique and original content I could see why that would be a bit boring. Sometimes though there are hidden gems in some of this sort of content but I also get it's horrible to watch through hours of stuff to look for one useful piece of content.
Is his preflop bible any good?
My two cents on the current state of training sites. Please keep in mind these are my personal opinions only as a consumer. I have been on many training sites since the Deucescracked days. I am only focusing on cash game content as I am primarily a cash game player. I have not consumed much in the way of tournament content.
1. RIO is fine but the thing is the vast majority of the videos are now old and useless. A lot of the videos are pre-solver or when people didn't know how to use solvers. Play and explain videos are often bad since they explain very little. The coaches are cautious not to share too much. However, there is some good content on there but you need to find it and it's hard for a newbie or even an experienced player to work out who to listen to. Krystoff Slaski (spelling?) is not bad imo. Uri Peleg is a boss. Sauce is a good player but in my personal opinion is not very committed to sharing everything he knows for you to become a better player. In fact, he specifically indicated in a video he would not share certain information/it would be unfair and that he ought not be expected to (and this was from a fellow coach asking). Another problem I have with Sauce (and it's just a personal opinion) is he says stuff like "this is a high EV board for the BB" which is a super useless statement to make without explaining WHY this is and HOW you can determine this at the table and whether it even matters for your strategy. Further, as he mostly plays PLO, I see him saying things in play and explains that make me wonder why he is the main coach for high stakes NLH still. For example, that he hasn't looked at preflop sims for 500z that factor in rake and that other coaches would be better at that. He also made a whole video on just how to use an RNG which seemed a bit pointless. I also see coaches on this site not want to even share excel spreadsheets even on request of paying members. That being said, this is obviously one of the better sites and there is some good stuff on here if you know what to look for.
2. Upswing - beginner content is good. Good place if you literally have no idea of even the rules of the game. The basic strategy will at least give you something to beat micro stakes with. I have some reservations about the category system because eventually you have to break out of that and realise those were just training wheels. Fried's content is good (just unfortunate he was constrained by upswing ranges which he didn't believe were correct and they certainly arn't correct). Damner's material, despite some criticism of it being boring (and it is at times), is actually very good. He is the exact opposite of someone like sauce. He is happy to share things including showing in full view a 3 man no rake preflop sim and discussing strategy in that regard. I was quite surprised he so freely shared that. He also shares quite freely how he thinks about the game. Upwing's true value in my opinion comes from the more advanced stuff by coaches they bring in like dammner and Fried.
3. Deucescracked - shame it went the way it did. They had a brand but let it just slip. They sold the site and no one did anything with it.
4. Red Chip Poker - I haven't seen any of the content but I have heard from others the content has not been updated in some time. My personal view is I do not think Ed Miller, Splitsuit and the Solve4Why crowd are any good at online poker by objective standards e.g. I don't think you will see Ed Miller, Splitsuit or people like Matt Berkey beating tougher online games (500z or 1knl+). I think the CORE program is probably good for the money for a beginner though. Beginners need a way to learn things like what a semi-bluff is, combinatorics, percentages, ratios etc in an easy and cheap way. I mean it's super cheap and I am sure even splitsuit/Ed Miller and co can get the basics right.
Optional extra for mods to server from this post if I am not allowed to say this since I am about to throw out some serious shade:
Outstandingpoker.com - this site is bordering on being a scam. It hasn't been updated in 7 or 8 years and at this point in time most of the statements on it are in my view misleading or false - especially "atta22 is one of the most profitable mid stakes poker players online." This is not true. It may have been true 7 or 8 years ago but it's not true now. Sorry for the shade but peddling this stuff is just wrong. I think they only make money by having people pay for a trial these days. It actually makes me angry if this site has subs still since it's not fair to class this stuff as training by today's standards. At least one person has signed up as of 2019 and I feel sorry for him since he isn't only wasting his 4.95 and whatever monthly fee thereafter, he is getting horrible advice and going to lose his bankroll. This sort of stuff can send people into depression or worse. A lot of their videos are old and just garbage.
Last edited by ColdWater; 09-29-2019 at 12:05 PM.