Hi All,

I am new to this forum and looking to purchase poker coaching products.

I have been looking into Poker Detox as I have watched a few of Nick Howards videos on youtube and his philosophy/approach resonates with me. I have some questions though:

Are the Poker Detox products any good?

Is Nick Howard a winning player? I would think that if you sell elite training products you should at least be a winning player yourself. I quickly sharkscoped his screen name and on pokerstars he is down about $60k.
I can't find any reviews or claims to the effectiveness of his coaching/products except from Nick himself.

I guess my third question is - do you have to be a winning player to coach?

I would love to hear from someone who has used his products to become a moreprofitable player. Thanks.

I've seen some of his stuff.

Here would be my synopsis...

a lot of what he says is true, but he uses too many words to convey something simple
all of his products are overpriced (in my opinion)
afaik he is not playing poker anymore seriously as he's doing other stuff -- but that's more a question for him

with regards to the third question it's tougher to answer, but for poker I think it's very important a coach understand the game very well and be able to win if he is coaching the student on how to play the game. Things like how to study/what to study/mental game stuff you don't necessarily need to be a winner to teach/coach someone those things.

i think he's the most overrated/overpriced coach ever. based on friends opinion, his PIO stuff is very good regardless, but you can work on it for yourself.

I haven't been playing poker for months however I would start watching this video pack, hope to learn some new concepts. I will post here what I learnt/thought about it.

+1

As someone who has spent a year in a stable and had several coaches (never Nick), I would highly recommend his products as I think he offers things others severely lack. Not saying they are worth the four figures he charges (the value in it is different for everybody), but I would definitely be using as much of the free content as possible to start with if I were you, and you can always check out his CFP program.

I've purchased one of his courses PDNV. If you play mid-high stakes its MORE than fairly priced.

I'd look at all of his content on Run It Once, to get a feel for who he is and how he teaches. I think in the coaching world, its almost not even the content as much as your ability to connect and focus on listening to the teacher for long periods of time.

If you have two coaches teaching the exact same content, but one is Ben Stein, and the other is much more charismatic you are going to learn way more from whom you like

Nick Howard is not a good poker player period. I would not recommend any of his material. I don't know anything about poker detox is that some new website? maybe they have good material i don't know or maybe Nick improved as a player, but from what I have seen hes an awful player. Dont know why hes on rio and don't know how he got pro stamped on his forehead. He tries to sound like a genius though with his vocabulary it will fool some noobs into thinking he is highly intelligent person. Its like what Albert Einstein says. If you can't explain something in a simple way you don't know what your talking about.

I've been contemplating this course for a while but I play micro STT SNG's. My question is would this course be relevant to SNG play? I'm interested in using black and white data to produce an edge.

Simply tired of a depleting bankroll and looking for a step up.

i really like it when coaches can convey complex ideas in simple, elegant ways

but there is also something to be said for trying to achieve maximum accuracy with language. even though nick howard does sometimes dip into language that sounds pretentious, i think this is because hes always trying to convey ideas with max precision.

anyone who knows his content also knows that he IS focused on simplifying certain aspects of theory/strat. i have learned a lot from nick howard, he is a great coach.

as far as his poker track record, let me say this: first of all these tracking websites are oftentimes only catch a small piece of a players lifetime results on various websites, live, etc. secondly, many people have benefitted from his content (including myself). the results we should be concerned with are the results of the people who have learned from him. many great sports coaches were unsuccessful athletes, but the results of their athletes is undeniable.

The new blackbox material he recently came out with is borderline scam for the price/content for anyone wondering.

What’s this? Can you post a link, I wanna see for myself

Google hard?

https://learn.pokerdetox.com/courses/black-box-ultimate

Some of Nick Howards stuff is very good, but still too many words and too expensive. However, use a lot of it non anon games and be prepared to get utterly ****ed by anyone good.

Black box ultimate has importable pio ranges was very useful to me

Sometimes the only winning move is to walk away.


Keep this in mind.

Good point.

His stuff is great but pretty expensive.

Totally agree with you, some things are really overrated.

Mover, did you end up getting any of the Poker Detox stuff? How was it???

You can get "Modern Poker Theory" for $40, a poker book where many other poker books are a complete joke compared to it. You can still spew money later if you feel like it

I did watch some of Nick' s stuff. I liked it. My impression is he is experienced and seemed to be doing quite well on the american sites. Variance is huge in poker, being -60k on stars doesnt say much to me. It could say some stuff ,depending how fast he lost those 60k and at what stakes. My point is you can be a good player and lose 60k very quickly playing quite high.
Best of luck anyways!

https://pokerdetox.thinkific.com/collections


Disregarding the price, which is a bit overpriced in my opinion, is the content decent despite the cost? And which of the courses are the most worth considering buying. If any of you have purchased any of them and could give some advice?

I’ve watched part of a course from Nick Howard and it was shocking how bad it was. I haven’t seen any of his other courses, because my experience was so bad why would I, but it was so bad I can’t see any of his courses being worth it especially if they are “a bit overpriced”.

Nick is such a poor communicator it wouldn’t matter how knowledgeable he was on a particular subject, it would still not be worth your hard earned dollar.

I have mixed feelings about his way of coaching. I find Nick Howard not to be the best communicator, for I sometimes find it hard to follow along with his thought processes, mainly due to his tendency to be too wordy in his explanations, even for simpler concepts. And it sometimes makes it hard to understand the main point, even though I'm sure they often contain valuable insights. So it's just that trying to follow along the way he communicates drains my energy, and I often find myself losing interest due to mental fatigue.

But with due respect, he is one of the better coaches out here,