Hi everyone!

As i heard that 2+2 is the biggest poker forum i would like to try to find some answers and make correct decision about my problem.

I am in staking and coaching deal for almost 2 years now and i havent make a cent from poker, i am constatly losing. I play cash games, currently nl30.
When we were making deal my staker told me that he beats nl400 with 6bb/100.
That also confirmed me his that time partner, 2nd man of the group who is not in that stable anymore. They were known as a SNG stable but they claimed that they have cash winning players (my mistake i havent looked for a proof, some graph or something, i decided to simply trust them cause they looked like ok guys) and we made a deal for an year and 1M hands.

I started with nl10 everything was fine. Then after soem time i was moved up to nl25 on microgaming which i found difficult to beat but my coach told me i can also play nl50 there and i was grinding hard but finished in makeup some 800e (idk exactly numbers now).

We were doing sessions coach was satisfied he told me what to change in my game, of course i wasnt playing every hand as he told me but i was doing my best to listen to his advices, and he was satisfied told me that i am beating those limits easily not to worry i will make a domination etc.

I was switching rooms to 888 playing nl100 even nl200, then on GG poker up to nl200 and i was cosntantly going down, maybe 3, or 4k makeup at that time. My mental game wasnt so strong and i was complaining all the time and my coach lost his patience told me that he doesnt want to hear that stories just to play and grind. And after 3 really sick bad beats on nl200 on GG (room he told me that i beat easily those limits and without hand history cause it wasnt supported by hm2 or pt4) when i updated my bankroll he told: HEY BIG LOSS, MOVE DOWN TO NL 50!!! Not even nl100, not even asking about hands or doing with me session to check what is going on,

Then i found out that HE HAD EXTRA AFFILIATE THAT HE WAS TAKING ONLY FOR HIM, eventhoug the deal was 50 50 all the profits and all the rakeback. I was losing my money and energy and he was earning money secretly.

I asked then for some winning graphs of his players, ofc there arent any. I asked around in skype group for other cash players all of them were losing and all of them were playing on networks wiht super affiliate! I found out that some cash players that were making money on their own when they joined group they started to lose and lot of them switched to MTTs.

So i made 5k makeup on limits such as nl 200 cause my coach told me that i can beat them and now i have to playe nl30 on 888 to get out from that minus and i was doing everything he told me and as he told me . Beside that he lied to me and he was stealing from me.
And also, i asked some guys who left that group, they told me about lot similar bad things he did also with them.

Please i would like to hear opinions from people from poker wolrd cause i cant lose anymore money and energy for something that doesnt work. I played much more than 1M hands for him, left college to side, lost will for everything else, and all that with doing what he told me, and as I said havent made a cent. I asked him to quit deal cause its not working he treathened me that he will go to my parents and ask for money i owe him.

Thank you very much, i would like to know what is correct , whats, how to say, moral, to do in this situation and if I have right that i can leave sthis deal and have problems with him again I will announce all the details of that group adn him here and then he can tell his part of the story and forum can make a decision.

Thanks, gl!

Well if its in your contract that they tell you which sites and what stakes to play on, well then what can you do.

Also you got nothing to do with super affiliate. It is not nice, but a staking deal means that you split the money you receive. What is your income? Profit and rakeback. That is yours, just because someone else paying to someone else because you play, well, its not yours is it? Are you the one who receives the money? Not...

But anyway he lied to you that hes beating that stake, the reason you sign the paper because he lied he played on nl400 with 6bb/100 but that was a lie. I think you are entitled to **** off because you got cheated.

Hey thanks for writing. I understand what are you saying about super affiliate. I forgot to announce that there was no official paper that we signed, we just made deal talking and, one aprt of that deal was to play limits i can beat no matter of results. And after couple of months i started to play nl50 on Microgaming which, now I know, are pretty reginfested games and i am sure that now i would have hard times to even breakeven somehow, and I cant imagine what kind of fish i was for that limit. And i was there to rake and him to take affiliate.
And then after, on the GG which was super soft, after 3 bad beats i got moved down to nl50 without reviewing or talking or anything.

What would you exactly do in my case?

No contract, he lied to you since the beginning...I think you have the moral right to **** off. Its his problem that he put you in makeup - hes not a NL400 crusher, he moved you up even though you clearly werent beating enough the lower limits etc. He did it because he profited from it, so he can eat what he cooked.

If I were you I would be thinking about how much **** can he cause me (go to your parents etc). Its also depends how much you know about his private details, should you be afraid of him and so on. Legally you have right to **** off, and morally too.

You shouldnt quit the deal because its not working. You should quit the deal because he lied to you, he mislead you. And you shouldnt ask permission to quit, you decide to quit. Stakers should realize finally that sadly they also can't lie, can't mislead and they have responsbilities and obligations too, not just the players.

Thank you very much, I really apriciate. Yes, he mislead me in many more ways. I was in one of the best coaching global groups and i was doing fine when I decided to move to their group just because they lied to me. And couple of time i went to his hometown to play togeter in office and I saw when he played some small networks those limits nl200 nl400 that he hadn steady grind and winnings.

Thanks once again a lot, i would just really liek to hear some more opinions before i act or put his details here for discussion.

Gl!