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Old 01-20-2020, 08:43 PM   #1
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Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7?

it appears that with so many GTO info out where why anybody would need another GTO course?
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Old 01-20-2020, 08:48 PM   #2
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Probably the best course I've ever watched. About 10 hours in.
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:27 PM   #3
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Probably the best course I've ever watched. About 10 hours in.
Did you watch the educa course?
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Old 01-27-2020, 02:11 PM   #4
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Is it true he doesnt talk about rivers, the postflop section is only about flop+turn?
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Old 01-27-2020, 04:33 PM   #5
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My friend sent me Kanu7's quote on this subject:

"River is both the largest topic and the least useful when it comes to studying solver play so I don't cover it in the main postflop videos where I extensively research a topic and provide implementable strategies, but I do go over some river spots in the play and explain section and will be happy to talk about some more river spots/concepts here if people have specific questions on it.
To expand on the first statement, it's the largest topic both because you have so many different combinations of flops, turns and rivers and because there are more action sequences, so there's when it checks to the river, there's after flop cbet and turn check etc. It's the least useful street to study in solvers because the later in a hand you get, the more chances both players have had to deviate from GTO ranges, so whatever ranges the solver would reach the river with and use to determine its strategies will be quite different to the ranges 2 human players reach the river with.
I don't mean to say that studying the river in solvers is pointless, far from it, but with a limited number of hours of material to make, I prioritised making detailed videos on the spots which are the most useful and where I think I can make the biggest improvement on what's already out there. I also decided that making as many of those detailed videos as possible would be more valuable for viewers than making videos talking about whether to value bet or check random hand examples on the river, since I don't particularly think I could do a better job of that than many other video coaches."
Member satisfaction is our top priority, so if the lack of a dedicated river section makes you no longer want this course, you can reach out to support@upswingpoker.com for a refund.
I am going to turn comments off here since this is not on the topic of poker strategy (as per the rules in the group description). You can DM me with any questions or concerns."
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Old 01-27-2020, 04:34 PM   #6
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

I would love to dive into this but $1k is too much.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:47 AM   #7
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

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Did you watch the educa course?
Yes. It was garbage compared to this. It seemed like Educa just hit the record button before a subject and just started talking about it. Kanu is very well prepared and goes into great detail on every spot he covers.

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Is it true he doesnt talk about rivers, the postflop section is only about flop+turn?
I guess. River is pretty simple and you have a general idea of what is going on by the time you get there. Following Kanu's advice for flop and turn, you should have a pretty good idea of your range and your opponent's range.
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Old 01-28-2020, 11:25 AM   #8
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Kanu approached this like a seasoned professor, really researched the topic wrote tons and tons of notes and then made the course. There are quite a few times during the course (I'm only about 1/3 of the way through) where you see him peak over to his notes and say "let me make sure I didn't miss anything." He really cares about being detailed as possible. The course itself is 36 hours without even discussing topics such as the river and and playing SRP out of position (he does have a BvB section that you can extrapolate ideas from for those LJ opens and BTN flats situations).

Considering river play is going to have to a ton of deviation from what a solver comes up with, it would probably would have added another 15 hours of course information to deeply dive into the deviations and exploits one would need here, and it would probably would have added another 3 or so months of prep time for Alex. He said he spent nearly a year putting this course together, which shows how dedicated he was to it.
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Old 02-01-2020, 01:02 PM   #9
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Course is alright, it teaches fundamentals reasonably well. But I found it was only really useful for taking away the sizings his private solver preferred in different spots, namely the BvB solver work since BvB takes ages to solve.
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Old 03-04-2020, 02:24 PM   #10
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

He spent like 20+ hours on flop play.
He spent a few hours on turn play in single raised pots.

He spent 0 hours on river play.
He spent 0 hours on turn play in 3bet pots.

Very smart.
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Old 03-06-2020, 01:32 PM   #11
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

he's not the easiest to follow. sometimes mumbles words / talks very fast and you have to rewind to see wtf he's talking about. sometimes rambles off topic for a min or 2 before getting back to topic. reminiscent of Ryan Fee, tho not as bad.

mmasherdog's 1k course, while not as in-depth, is much easier to watch.

I'm not done with this one, will be back with a short review afterwards.
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Old 03-13-2020, 09:30 AM   #12
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

The course is quite dry and, as others have said, it is not comprehensive. It is possible to extrapolate quite well from the situations he does cover into other similar situations and he gives some guidance on how to do this for positional differences.

His rigorous attention to detail in translating the private solver's lines into stuff that can actually be used is inspiring and a major clue as to what made him a crusher.

Although he emphasises the importance of deviating heavily from GTO in order to exploit he is careful about providing direct advice about where to do this. Partly because he doesn't play anymore but also because good exploit attempts can change quite quickly into bad ones.

The takeaway for me is frequencies, frequencies, frequencies. Bet sizes matter and there is plenty of advice for that but how to get the frequencies right most of the time is the bread and butter of a solid game plan.

Don't buy it for a quick fix. It will take a while to absorb. That said, working through PIO or whatever to reach similar conclusions would likely take much longer.

Oh, and being able to change the playback speed and bookmark the videos is a big help when you are looking for a specific spot you forgot how to play. Even if if does turn Millar from an already fast talker into some unnerving poker ubermensch.

8/10
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Old 03-20-2020, 08:31 PM   #13
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Sounds sick.

Wish it was more affordable, hard to justify at micros something that is 10x your BR.
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Old 05-29-2020, 06:20 PM   #14
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

@ionutd Have you completed the course in the meantime and can you be so nice to give a short review? This aims not only at ionutd but also at everybody else who has completed the course or is already at a point where he is able/willing to give a review.
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Old 06-21-2020, 12:32 PM   #15
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Its a great course if you are interested in flop play vs diff sizes, or turn play in SRP pots.

But:
0 hours about river play (neither SRP not 3b pots)
0 hours about turn play in 3bet pots, only flop.
0 hours about playing turns/rivers after flop XR.

Shame about the retarded structure/content, because I like him, and hes very thorough.
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Old 06-25-2020, 10:54 AM   #16
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

He was very thorough about donking (which is lol since they are low percentage events). His 3bet pots in position was 15 minute long. His 4bet pots was nonexistent (touched on it in the Linus videos for a minute). His Linus videos can get reduced to a 5 minute video (look GTO everywhere but blast the river with overbets).

Mmasherdog's course much better. We don't need nonsense like limping small blind or having calling range out of the SB in SRPs. That's peanuts and mmasherdog skipped the peanuts and went straight to the meat and potatoes.

Both poker gods, but mmasherdog is not aspy and thus a much better instructor.
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:36 PM   #17
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Re: Any reviews for Cash Games Strategy by Kanu7

Is is true that the Kanu7 course doesn't cover the scenario of calling a 3bet IP pre and then being faced with a cbet from villain otf?

As far as I've understood the only flop-szenarios are blindvsblind and BBvsIP (which is called IPvsBB in the course but actually is the opposite).
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