Hey guys, just came across this thread. I want to tackle a few of the questions in here, and I am glad to see there is some interest in what we have to offer.
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Originally Posted by mygameispoker
Just bought upswing subscription, deeply unsatisfied at the moment. Buyer Beware. I will update if things change, but currently the website is not user friendly and the material he is selling for 199$ is not very good and you can get better material at RIO for 10$ essential sub.Seriously the info upswing offers is stuff that every 25nl player should and does know. That being said, I'm just one guy, give it a shot if you like. I am trying to prevent people from making the same mistake. The only thing I see possibly being worth it is potential access to a fb group, with that being said I'm so pissed off about the modules and website functionality right now its hard to even be optimistic about the fb group. Also, that I only briefly perused the modules but they were not impressive. I cant even access the lab again because the website functionality is not user friendly (meaning I cant find the lab).
Thanks for the honest opinion. Its comments like this that make companies better. You were the first person to EVER buy our product, and we had a bunch of issues we had to fix. We have updated the videos to a different hosting service and now they are much quicker/load smoothly. We have added in some small stakes play and explain from fees and I. Our facebook engage group has been growing and we have been answering a ton of questions there.
I also want to say we gave a full refund to this user for his bad experience with us. We are not here to take your money if you feel that our product is so bad you need to warn people about it. I am putting my name on the line here, and spent many hours creating that content. I feel that the way we think about poker is correct, and is why we have been so successful.
If you still have anything you would like to discuss feel free to get in contact with me, you should still have my information.
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Upswing Poker looks like a level so far, seems like a lot of effort to go to for a joke though.
Not a level. We are a coaching site and are building our brand. We are going to move to a new site format soon that should hopefully look more professional. (I am a poker pro not a developer!)
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Originally Posted by Warder
My thoughts as well. Doug seems like a pretty smart guy who cares about his reputation so it's hard to think that this is a product that he wants to attach his name to. I'm mildly interested to see how it develops though.
If I thought there was a 1% chance this would hurt my reputation within the community I wouldn't do it. When I started this company with Fees and Matt, my worry was and will always be, our customers should get good value back for their purchases. That is basically my role in this company, to make sure you get the bang for your buck.
There may be some confusion as to what we are offering with our products. If you think I am going to sit down and play 50/100 and show you all of my personal ranges for the people I play again, that is clearly not going to happen. I have a career in playing high stakes poker. However at the same time, there is a correct way to think about poker and that is what we are bringing here to you guys.
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Originally Posted by MR McDonald
I was coming on here to ask advice/reviews of upswing poker.
First review isnt great has any one else purchased the full subscription?
Also any one got any recommendations for good theory based cash game videos/ series on any other website?
The play and explain approach which is what most sites offer is low value imo and all the training site pros are keeping all the good stuff to them selfs.which is fine just don't be a training site pro if your not going to give a 100% and just cash in on a 30 min live session with mediocre commentary.
Any recommendations would be great
Cheers
Let me explain exactly who the lab is targeted for, and exactly what it is.
The lab is aimed at small-mid stakes players who are looking to think about poker in a more strategic way. Our lab has 5 different sections of information. A section on basic stuff to get you up to speed on what you will need to know for the later information. A preflop section on how to play preflop in various different spots. A postflop section, this is the most dense section, covering the basis for how we will be playing our hands across various boards and how to categorize our hands. Then we have game elements/mental game sections, giving good advice to people looking to move up in stakes.
There are 19 videos of me in these sections, ranging from a few minutes to twenty minutes. I would say the average length is aproximately 10 minutes. In these videos, I talk ranges, how sizes change what I would play, and how hands can be played differently from differnet positions. I also fill the videos with hands I played that I thought were interesting, cool, and a few big pots I have played through my career in online poker.
We have 8 30 minute play and explain videos at small stakes we added in a week or so ago. These are half me, half fees. We play small stakes and explain our logic as we go through the hands. This was the content we added for March.
We will be adding in more content monthly. I took a poll of what our users wanted to see and they wanted to see more information on turn/river, so that is likely going to be up next for april.
Additionally with all of these things, you will get access to the Upswing poker Engage which is a facebook group that Fees and I are in where we can answer questions in a group setting. Also there are the other members of the lab that can chime in and hopefully help you out as well.
Let me know if you have any other questions! I am happy with the product we are putting out, I have put a lot of work into it. This is NOT a teach me how to play high stakes series! This is really aimed at people in the nl 400 and under range online, and probably up to 5/10 or so live.