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09-05-2011 , 12:04 PM
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09-05-2011 , 08:38 PM
I am wondering in Deuces Cracked which series or coaches will be best to follow as far as live full ring NLH is concerned. Past black friday due to the need of playing live and adapting to it I am just wondering which series will serve best there... Thanks in advance.. I will be mostly playing in the 1/2 games and taking shots in 2/5 NL
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09-05-2011 , 09:20 PM
^still watch videos made by an online pro -> crush live games obv

on DC ones by this guy perhaps:

Spoiler:


there are some good 'adapting to live nl' type vids on cardrunners by [vital]myth, and many on DC too i'm sure, e.g stuff by fslexduck
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09-07-2011 , 06:30 AM
Hi guys,

I'm new to the forums and would like to pick your brain on the following subject:

There are a lot of training sites out there (PokerVT, Bluefire, Leggo, DC, etc.). Which one is best for a NL50 player who wants to take the next step and move up in stakes?

Any suggestions?
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09-07-2011 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bellerophon
Hi guys,

I'm new to the forums and would like to pick your brain on the following subject:

There are a lot of training sites out there (PokerVT, Bluefire, Leggo, DC, etc.). Which one is best for a NL50 player who wants to take the next step and move up in stakes?

Any suggestions?
The best thing for you is do the free trials at all the sites one at a time. This is over a month of unlimited training videos from ALL the best sites for FREE. Then pick your favourite. Add cardrunners too.
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09-07-2011 , 04:11 PM
I have been paying for a coach that a friend recommended for a few months. I found out his former Stars/Tilt names today and looked him up on PTR. He has lost over 2 million dollars straight to the depths of hell since he started playing NLH in 2008. I'm sure I'll run in to this again, so I've come to the trusty TwoPlusTwo forums for help.

Someone please recommend someone or even a site that specializes in deep stack cash game strategy with competent pros. I'm not interested in tournament at this time. I know there are a lot of good tourney players that lack cash game skills and vice versa.

I have a short list of instructors I trust and I've watched all their stuff:
pbjaxx
nanonoko
livebikebart


Of course all of these guys are $$$$ but it may be worth it.
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09-07-2011 , 04:20 PM
Can someone explain to me why someone will post: "XXX is a great player and genius" then I look them up on OPR/PTR and they are losing over a million dollars and have a graph that starts at 0 and never returns to the positive? Are these tracking sites misleading or are the training site misleading? I don't mind giving the benefit of the doubt. I'm specifically talking about cash game results, not tournaments.

You can easily look-up nanonoko on the same sites and see shining results.
I am not here to gripe, I'm honestly trying to decide WHICH site to subscribe to and DEVOTE my full attention to. That's why I'm looking up their coaches on various result reporting sites. If any of you are instructors, chime in please or PM with recomendations.

Looking for advice/training on deep stack live cash games $2/$5 to $25/50 or the online equivalent.
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09-07-2011 , 04:41 PM
^bad variance at nosebleed stakes (ansky, whitelime, krantz etc. ran bad at 200/400), unreliability of PTR, the best players aren't necessarily best players, etc etc. has been discussed a lot on these forums. better to go by the community consensus and your personal opinion of videomakers, how their teaching style works for you, etc., than PTR

couple threads
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-busto-994049/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/12...-hands-668967/
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09-07-2011 , 06:26 PM
If you're playing up to 25-50 deep live, I'd imagine you should probably subscribe to any training site that has any single instructor you're interested in.

That would mean (random known name examples) jman, cts, aejones, krantz, whoever you're interested in, if they are the only one at the site you're interested in, you should probably just spend the money solely for their videos (and anything extra is just more value).

I can't help you specifically since I don't watch these, but there are a lot of users that can chime in on what they think is worthwhile for you to watch.
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09-10-2011 , 07:58 AM
Guess this falls in the category of coaching questions

I haven't been able to play poker for a long time because of college and now I want to get started again. Because it's been quite a while I think it would be good to do some reading and analyzing before I start.

I joined bluefire poker recently. The first 7 days are free and then they charge a $100 registration fee and $30 per month of membership.
Is it a good idea for skilled low stakes players to make this investment or is bluefire more suitable for more advanced players? I mean really low stakes like 50NL

I believe I have potential but I simply never had time to get a lot of hands in.
Internships, exams.. But now I'm finished

I noticed that you can download low stakes videos to your Ipod on bluefire. At first sight that seems impossible for other videos.

The sign up fee is one thing but I'm not gonna download 250 one hour videos over and over again to make sure that I understood all concepts. I would get huge internet bills on top of the fees.
Is there a way to download all the videos to your laptop? And is that legal?

Is there a better way to develop than joining bluefire if you are a low stakes player?

Opinions are appreciated

Last edited by hopetoimprove; 09-10-2011 at 08:04 AM.
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09-10-2011 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jspill
^bad variance at nosebleed stakes (ansky, whitelime, krantz etc. ran bad at 200/400), unreliability of PTR, the best players aren't necessarily best players, etc etc. has been discussed a lot on these forums. better to go by the community consensus and your personal opinion of videomakers, how their teaching style works for you, etc., than PTR

couple threads
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-busto-994049/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/12...-hands-668967/
There's just too much talk about the unreliability of PTR. As soon as you have a statistically significant sample, it matters little if PTR misses out say 10% of all hands. Those 10% can simply be expected to follow the same trend as the rest of the hands. This is the very idea and purpose of a site like PTR.

Samples should obv also be considered at specific stakes, e.g. if a player has 100k hands and is a losing player, but you found he took a shot at higher stakes over 1k hands and lost a lot of money there but is still crushing lower stakes, he will still have value to bring in coaching at the lower level.

That said, making excuses for players that are losing over a large sample, saying that PTR misses hands, shows either a lack of understanding of statistics or a desire to cover up facts.

V
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09-11-2011 , 08:02 AM
What's the best video site for PLO cash 6-max and HU?

Thanks
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09-12-2011 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Veigald
There's just too much talk about the unreliability of PTR. As soon as you have a statistically significant sample, it matters little if PTR misses out say 10% of all hands. Those 10% can simply be expected to follow the same trend as the rest of the hands. This is the very idea and purpose of a site like PTR.

Samples should obv also be considered at specific stakes, e.g. if a player has 100k hands and is a losing player, but you found he took a shot at higher stakes over 1k hands and lost a lot of money there but is still crushing lower stakes, he will still have value to bring in coaching at the lower level.

That said, making excuses for players that are losing over a large sample, saying that PTR misses hands, shows either a lack of understanding of statistics or a desire to cover up facts.

V
Unless PTR misses hands in a specific way, which it did on FTP. When you run it twice for every hand, and your opponents run it twice say 80% of the time (pretty typical for most of my play), then it will miss 80% of showdown hands that are all in before the river (it misses RIT completely). I lose a lot of money in non SD pots in PLO, as do most people as far as I know. Pretty inevitable for me to have a monster negative number on ptr because of this, although I have had fairly mediocre results in the last two years playing high stakes online, which adds to the problem.
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09-16-2011 , 01:30 PM
Hi,
do you know of any PLO MTT videos out there?
I've got a Deuces Cracked membership so if there are some videos on there it would be great, but any other site is fine as well.
Thanks.
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09-19-2011 , 04:58 AM
Been meaning to sign up for bluefire for a while but having to pay sign up fee kills me inside. Don't think I will do it given that only samoleous and galfonds videos are the ones I am interested in... How does the free trial work? Feel like **** downloading the vids and running away lol... If they didn't charge sign up fee I would snap join
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09-19-2011 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by XtremeUngar
Been meaning to sign up for bluefire for a while but having to pay sign up fee kills me inside. Don't think I will do it given that only samoleous and galfonds videos are the ones I am interested in... How does the free trial work? Feel like **** downloading the vids and running away lol... If they didn't charge sign up fee I would snap join
You can only download max 10 vids with the trial.
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09-19-2011 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by XtremeUngar
Been meaning to sign up for bluefire for a while but having to pay sign up fee kills me inside. Don't think I will do it given that only samoleous and galfonds videos are the ones I am interested in... How does the free trial work? Feel like **** downloading the vids and running away lol... If they didn't charge sign up fee I would snap join
No offense, but that's kind of like saying "I don't want to watch any of the undercards, why can't I buy the Mayweather Ortiz fight separately?"

If Galfond and Samoleous were removed from the site, I doubt there would be a signup fee.

It sounds like you can get 10 videos for free through their trial though, so watch those and decide if it's worth the cost to join for you.

If it's not worth $100 to spend hours watching their videos, it's not going to be worth $0 either probably, don't forget the hours you'll spend watching these (and when you add it in it'll probably come out to be a few dollars per hour that you're spending anyways, that goes for most legit sites).
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09-19-2011 , 01:57 PM
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No offense, but that's kind of like saying "I don't want to watch any of the undercards, why can't I buy the Mayweather Ortiz fight separately?"

If Galfond and Samoleous were removed from the site, I doubt there would be a signup fee.

It sounds like you can get 10 videos for free through their trial though, so watch those and decide if it's worth the cost to join for you.

If it's not worth $100 to spend hours watching their videos, it's not going to be worth $0 either probably, don't forget the hours you'll spend watching these (and when you add it in it'll probably come out to be a few dollars per hour that you're spending anyways, that goes for most legit sites).
Ur right... no offense taken... I just dont recall paying sign up fee before for any other sites I was once a member of or still am... But I got your point.... I will do the free trial soon and check it out....
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09-19-2011 , 02:01 PM
Yea of course, not all sites will have a sign up fee. But not all sites have Galfond content. Of course if you watch some of his videos in the free trial and don't feel he offers anything superior that you can find in more affordable places, then of course passing on it makes sense.
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09-25-2011 , 02:43 PM
Video recommendations for uNL 6max player subbed with CR please?
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09-27-2011 , 02:49 PM
Whoa, Bluefire just got DDBeast! SICK!
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09-27-2011 , 04:49 PM
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imo drag the bar sucks for NL cash, compared to other sites. It's great for LHE tho'.
Somebody made this remark about DTB 2-3 months ago. I'm in the middle of a trial, and I have one big criticism: They don't let trial subscribers download full-sized videos. So you have to strain your eyes (or in my case buy stronger reading glasses) just to see the instructors and villains' hole-cards in a tiny little 1/4-screen (or smaller) vid.

The only other training site that I've checked out is Cardrunners; they offer trial videos that are like clips from normal vids -- but full-sized. I used to be a member there but my TFPT subscription died with FTP.

Two interesting things I've seen on Drag the Bar, however:

1) Leatherass playing with no HUD
2) 3-part series where Beachjustice two-tables 6-max $.50-1 without seeing his hole cards.

I've never seen that anywhere else and it was a very cool exercise.
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09-27-2011 , 09:02 PM
^at least they don't have DRM though, so once you are a full member you can download and keep vids forever without having to put in a password

you can get TFPT for cardrunners with Titan poker and partypoker now, and DTB same thing with party, carbon and black chip poker
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09-28-2011 , 10:58 PM
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Somebody made this remark about DTB 2-3 months ago. I'm in the middle of a trial, and I have one big criticism: They don't let trial subscribers download full-sized videos. So you have to strain your eyes (or in my case buy stronger reading glasses) just to see the instructors and villains' hole-cards in a tiny little 1/4-screen (or smaller) vid.

The only other training site that I've checked out is Cardrunners; they offer trial videos that are like clips from normal vids -- but full-sized. I used to be a member there but my TFPT subscription died with FTP.

Two interesting things I've seen on Drag the Bar, however:

1) Leatherass playing with no HUD
2) 3-part series where Beachjustice two-tables 6-max $.50-1 without seeing his hole cards.

I've never seen that anywhere else and it was a very cool exercise.
Hey man, really glad you liked that series, it was a fun one to make and I think had some really cool spots in it.

As for the video size, just click the button above the video box that says "Resize Video," and you can open an adjustable window for the streaming vids, thats how you make the streaming full size. Having the default video player much bigger is on the project list, I agree that would make things better and less confusing.

-Hunter
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09-29-2011 , 08:44 PM
Was wondering what some awesome fullring videos for 100nlh type player. Thanks for any suggestions.
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