Live from the Two Plus Two Studios, April 3rd 2012 - Staking with Team Moshman & Terrence Chan The feature guest this week on the Two Plus Two PokerCast is Gary Krakower of Team Moshman poker staking group. Gary joins Mike and Adam to talk about the business of online poker staking and what its taken to succeed post Black Friday in this volatile industry. Also featured on the program is Hero Poker pro and friend of the show Terrence Chan. Terrence makes a return visit to the program only days after his Mixed Martial Arts professional debut in the Ledgen Fighting Championship 8 and talks about the outpouring of support he received from the poker community. In forum static the guys cover a wide array of topics including the March Madness Finals, their upcoming trip to the Irish Open, preview a new Comedy Madness competition and of course give away the password for the April 8th Poker Stars VIP Club Invitational for PokerCast listeners.


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Oh hai there Dan, just checking your figure

Just in time for my cross the pond nap.

Doctors posting from 30,000 feet itt

Hoping my ncaa tournament bracket win garnered me a shout out in this episode...

Nevermind. Just saw mj's post in other forum. Next week...

Glad across the pond, guys! Have fun!

5th

Anyone have a link to the download please? Thanks.

Update:

Arrived Dallas. Airport is on hold for thunderstorms and tornadoes. Sitting on plane. Wifi is not on so can't even download the show and insomnia is kicking in.

http://pokercast.s3.amazonaws.com/twoplustwo_216.mp3

How much did Moshman pay for this slot?

Somewhere in the vicinity of three hundred and fifty

Getting all my runbad out of the way. Dallas airport basically closed. Attempting alternative routing to meet adam and bunner in deutschland. Failing so far..

Sitting on plane with hail falling felt like being in a human jiffypop tin

Do they still make Jiffy Pop? Ever try using one of those over a campfire?

I'm halfway through and I like this episode a lot, very informative. I appreciate!!!

Sounds good one, will listen to it later

Adam

If your full of schnitzel, or not, I'm delayed to Dublin til bout 1030. We share cab?

Loved the Moshman section, I've always been interested in staking so it's gave me food for thought. Still have 40 mins to go, will listen to the rest tomorrow.

Hope there's a password this week

anybody out there able to provide a link to Terrence's fight?

lol... now that I officially know that Buner can't spell, I found it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnmaWVwe6J8

He is introduced at about 7 min of the vid.

Sorry if the link is against the rulez

Zooby Zooby Zooooooo

Bunner's Schneider/Luongo joke was awesome.

So is it official yet that Mike and Adam have submitted their applications and are being staked by Moshman on Stars?

I hope you both were completely honest on your applications.

Agreed.It was a fascinating interview.

You and Gary made a great interview. 9.8/10. -0.02 for the poor sound quality

Have listened to most of it last cpl days and very solid ep. I kinda was planning on skipping the interviews, since didn't really anticipate the staking guy being very interesting, and tho I always enjoy listening to terrence on the show I don't dig mma much, but I listened pretty intently all the way thru so far.

Gary seems very well grounded and reasonable, and I thought the way he approached and presented the staking on the show both as a "mutually beneficial, we understand things can happen and just want everything to go fairly and each of us to make as much as possible" type deal, but also as a well-run business that managed risk well and couldn't help but turn out sizable profits. His accounts of the dragon's den and the lolbad apps were very fun to listen to. I've done a bit of staking in the past, and tho I'm up some overall from running good on a cpl of them, I def was way way too sloppy in the way I sought out and entrusted stakes and got burned a few times, and if I ever do it again will def take a lot of what gary put out there in mind.

Terrence / MMA stuff was interesting as to hear him present in the context of poker / gambling (ie ramping up variance by going for fight-ending submission every time good opportunity presents itself) made me appreciate the sport more. I really don't like anything about watching MMA except for when they land some really solid kicks or punches in a flurry and a guy gets ko'ed, but after listening to this segment and some stuff rogan has said on his podcast, I think I could get into it more if I focused on the strategic elements of it (and I'm sure betting some $ on it would help a lot).

Also, re: nfl and b+m casino advertising, I don't understand the issue. First off, morally, I think The Wynn is on a roughly equal ground in society's eyes to something like Dewar's Whiskey or Viagra which advertise heavily, and how would casino advertising possibly give anyone any idea that the games were rigged? I guess because some of the casinos that advertise might have sportsbooks that you can bet on the game? But yeah, with the already highly celebrated betting on the NFL season, I think it has to be, like you said, just one of Tagliabue's pet peeves / grudges.

Also, was the illinois lottery stuff you talked about interstate or intrastate?