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Old 09-29-2008, 11:59 AM   #61
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Re: Pokercast Episode 41 - 2+2 Young Guns Special

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Bunner said you should defocus the form field where you enter the password but keep the focus on the same window (by clicking somewhere else in that same window). Should work imo.
ah.. I see. My misunderstanding. That should work, can't be guaranteed, but not a terrible idea. If the logger is logging the windows event queue, it could see the mouse click though... If someone is really gunning for your stars account, and has access to your machine, it's going to be hard to stop them.

I wouldn't log into my banking/stars account on a public terminal.. It's tough to stay ahead of the thieves...
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:49 PM   #62
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Re: Pokercast Episode 41 - 2+2 Young Guns Special

All, thanks for the praise and such, and sorry we didn't get to some of your questions for me in the threads. I think I "expanded" on my answers more than most do.

Also wanted to thank Mike and Adam for running such a great interview. It was a fun show to be on.
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:25 PM   #63
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All, thanks for the praise and such, and sorry we didn't get to some of your questions for me in the threads. I think I "expanded" on my answers more than most do.

Also wanted to thank Mike and Adam for running such a great interview. It was a fun show to be on.
great Matusow story. Thorough enjoyed the candidness of sandwich buying stories..
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:51 PM   #64
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All, thanks for the praise and such, and sorry we didn't get to some of your questions for me in the threads. I think I "expanded" on my answers more than most do.

Also wanted to thank Mike and Adam for running such a great interview. It was a fun show to be on.
I don't listen to many of the pokercasts, but I listened to your segment twice today, trying to catch everything you said.

Best pokercast I've ever heard...you are a certified champion in my book.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:29 AM   #65
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Bunner said you should defocus the form field where you enter the password but keep the focus on the same window (by clicking somewhere else in that same window). Should work imo.
Again in my original post I have already explained that regardless of where you "defocus" there is always an active window in Windows. Windows Desktop has a handle Window (hWnd) just like any other application so even then it will still log your keypresses even though you "think" you are not typing into an active editbox (I'm positive that this is true but since I have not done any Windows programming I cannot say with absolute certainty. However if the Desktop does have a hWnd then it should be very easy to capture keystrokes from it).

My first post in this thread was just to warn other users that his advice is possibly harmful to spread as truth since it's the equivalent of an old wives' tale. I have nothing against Bunner or whoever said it and I understand that they were trying to be helpful but it's not a good idea to spread this as some sort of truth to other poker players who are not very computer knowledgeable because it puts the players into the mindset that, "Even though this is a public terminal that could have a keylogger, I heard on the 2+2 PokerCast that as long as I do a certain trick, it'll be okay," when almost 99% of the time it will not. If a computer has been compromised with a keylogger your best bet is to NOT USE the machine.
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:39 AM   #66
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Re: Pokercast Episode 41 - 2+2 Young Guns Special

I think the idea was to click somewhere in the same window to make the password field lose focus, type a bit, and then get back to to the field to finish typing the password. The idea is that the keylogger sees the same hWnd as long as you stay on the same window. Just tested that with the PS login screen, but doesn't work (clicking somewhere else keeps the focus on the pw field.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:16 AM   #67
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great show, aejones segment was really really good
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:44 PM   #68
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aejones segment was really really good
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:54 PM   #69
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Hand that aejones played discussed in the interview:

Full Tilt Poker, $25/$50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $18,854.50
Hero (BB): $10,553.75

Pre-Flop: K K dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to $150, Hero raises to $550, SB calls $400

Flop: ($1,100) 6 Q 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $575, SB calls $575

Turn: ($2,250) 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $1,700, Hero raises to $5,425, SB calls $3,725

River: ($13,100) 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets $4,003.75 and is All-In, SB calls $4,003.75

Results: $21,107.50 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
SB showed K A (a flush, Ace high) and WON $21,107 (+$10,553.25 NET)
Hero showed K K (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$10,553.75 NET)
I just got to that part of the interview, and paused it to look for it in the forum, and all I find is this without the suits...pretty worthless IMO.
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:11 PM   #70
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Re: Pokercast Episode 41 - 2+2 Young Guns Special

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I just got to that part of the interview, and paused it to look for it in the forum, and all I find is this without the suits...pretty worthless IMO.
Oops. I just cut and pasted from his blog, didn't notice suits didn't transfer.

Flop Qd 6s 2d
Turn 8s
River 9d
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:40 PM   #71
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Oops. I just cut and pasted from his blog, didn't notice suits didn't transfer.

Flop Qd 6s 2d
Turn 8s
River 9d
Thank you sir. As you know, I love the show .
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:47 PM   #72
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Re: Pokercast Episode 41 - 2+2 Young Guns Special

For those of you who use FireFox - here is an anti-keylogger:

KeyScrambler

I found this over in the software forums at one point. The free version just works in FireFox (and IE I think), but the first level of pay version works for many major online poker sites.

I'm def. not a software or internet security expert, but I figured I'd throw this into the mix.

Oh, and the show was awesome last week - I just started listening to this week's.
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:24 PM   #73
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Re: Pokercast Episode 41 - 2+2 Young Guns Special

First time ive heard of AEJONES... all i can say is he comes of as a very Intelligent poker player, explains his thoughts EXTREMLEY well... the type of guy that can explain the game to a girlfriend or parent type and make it seem not so much like gambling im sure
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