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12-20-2014 , 11:31 PM
Can someone post or pm me a link to the Pokercast episode where Phil Ivey is on. I tried searching it but couldn't find it...I'm a new listener, thanks in advance!
12-21-2014 , 12:36 AM
welp
12-21-2014 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TChan
That's pretty much exactly what I was trying to say. Justice, in theory, demands pursuit of the truth. But the actual justice system is two opponents or teams playing against one another. If you're trying to win a game, you would want the best coach, the best players, the best game plan. As you point out, that's what the prosecution had.

The point is that it's unfortunate that the best method we've figured out of coming to the truth is this antagonistic model where both sides simply plays the "game" as best as they can. Adnan didn't have a great coach or a star quarterback (or maybe he did have a great quarterback who happened to have a bad game), and as a result he may well spend the rest of his life in prison. And he's far from the only one, just the most public.

I don't know much about it, but fwiw France uses an 'inquisitorial' system where the judge drives the calling of witnesses and the like: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inqui..._system#France. It seems like it's only one stage of a process that also involves the adversarial system if the judge decides there's sufficient evidence. In the UK coroners' inquests (used to establish legal cause of death) follow a similar system, I think.

It's hard to imagine a system where we have people designed to prosecute cases who aren't incentivised to, err, get convictions, so I don't know how you solve the problem.
12-21-2014 , 10:13 AM
You lot put me onto Twitch and it's so addictive, my volume has been halved because of it.

Have you a link for the Pokercast Twitch stream?
12-21-2014 , 03:07 PM
I'm going to stream the Pokercast Invitational in an hour!

http://www.twitch.tv/twoplustwo_poker

Come hang out
12-21-2014 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
The Serial intro was really well.
this. hilarious stuff. possibly best intro ever.

thanks for putting us onto serial.
12-22-2014 , 04:54 PM
To listen to the rest of this episode, or serial on my road trip. hmmmm
12-22-2014 , 10:55 PM
Haven't finished the episode yet, but I loved the Serial intro. Especially since I just marathoned the whole show in the past 4 days.
12-23-2014 , 01:59 AM
I've managed to get through the first 7 episodes in the last couple of days, I'm hooked!

Re listened to the intro about 4 times ha
12-23-2014 , 02:01 AM
Jay sounds like Phil Ivey
12-26-2014 , 06:18 PM
The week off gives me time to make headway on "Serial." Thanks!
12-26-2014 , 11:10 PM
Let us know about spoiler alert before serial talk. Heard about it thru 2p2pc and am just starting.

Great job overall, still my fave poker media material for 3 years
12-27-2014 , 03:09 PM
Thanks for reading my question about the Progressive KO bounties.

Here is the link to the thread for those that want to check out the pool:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...urney-1496011/
12-27-2014 , 06:43 PM
Well done
12-28-2014 , 05:51 AM
Thank you for having me on guys. Fun times.
12-29-2014 , 01:35 AM
For those getting caught up on Serial (as I've mostly done in the week following this episode), here's a video that shows the geography: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7AcboDMfs
12-31-2014 , 01:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TChan
That's pretty much exactly what I was trying to say. Justice, in theory, demands pursuit of the truth. But the actual justice system is two opponents or teams playing against one another. If you're trying to win a game, you would want the best coach, the best players, the best game plan. As you point out, that's what the prosecution had.

The point is that it's unfortunate that the best method we've figured out of coming to the truth is this antagonistic model where both sides simply plays the "game" as best as they can. Adnan didn't have a great coach or a star quarterback (or maybe he did have a great quarterback who happened to have a bad game), and as a result he may well spend the rest of his life in prison. And he's far from the only one, just the most public.
The issue in this case, as the narrator pointed out in the first episode, is whether or not the defense lawyer threw the case in order to set up an appeal, for which she would be paid more. So a better sports analogy would be to a boxer (or MMA fighter, if you like) who tries to put on an entertaining fight but throws it near the end to guarantee himself a rematch.
01-07-2015 , 01:04 AM
After the Bart Hanson strategy minute thing, there was like a seriously quiet voice talking about raising raising and raising or something. I could hardly hear it. Hopefully that isn't a regular new ad. Even if the sound was normal, it would have been horrible from what I could pick up.
01-12-2015 , 07:12 AM
I have listened to all the Serial episodes, so I decided to get back and listened to the intro (since it made no sense to me first time around).
Amazing spoof!
Especially the impression of the defence laywer.
Good stuff!
01-13-2015 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MLjung
I have listened to all the Serial episodes, so I decided to get back and listened to the intro (since it made no sense to me first time around).
Amazing spoof!
Especially the impression of the defence laywer.
Good stuff!
Is it not??
01-14-2015 , 06:06 PM
what is the link or name of some twitch pro poker players. I'm looking to watch a pro sng player or more specifically a DON sng player.
02-16-2015 , 03:07 PM
After finally getting into Serial and listening to the first 5 episodes, I went back to listen to the open. Very well done! Now I appreciate it.
02-18-2015 , 10:27 AM
I know I'm way behind here, but the Serial opening was BRILLIANT. Well done.
02-19-2015 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokernutz1954
what is the link or name of some twitch pro poker players. I'm looking to watch a pro sng player or more specifically a DON sng player.
There's a list of them on the right side of the screen while I'm reading this thread...


      
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