Adam losing equiity by choosing durrrrrrrrrrr

2:14:00 ... unfortunate pause there lads, 156 different what ?

The bubble removal scenario happened 2/2 Sunday $115s at Commerce to me. I thought it was +EV for me bc average stack was about 20BB at that point...and I don't want the bubble to bring avg stack to 15BB.

EDIT: You got to it. gg.

"Retiring" has worked well for Sean Deeb and Mike McDonald, so why is Terrence against it?

Re. Pressure around bubble deals great solution I experienced at Binions was giving each player a red and black card symbolising deal or no deal and players returned one face down to tournament director a single no and play carried on.

They made it very clear it was to be anonymous and no discussion and although I’m pretty sure everyone knew I was the one dissenter (only non local) the method and attitude of tournament director made it clear there should be no further pressure put on; was great

Even if there are multiple tables left sure each dealer could manage this and as soon as one table has a no play continues. Wouldn’t take many events with there always being at least one no before the practice is wiped out and bubbles just play as they should.

I can think of few finer examples of poetic justice than the misspelling of Shaun Deeb's name.

Yeah this has been done in Ireland for years and generally works well.

would Terrence mind posting the infamous "Math House" crew? sounds as if its a tight nit bunch but other than TC and BC I dont think I know the names of any of the others....Matt Glantz? sounds like many of us would be -Ev in a limit game there :P

Terrence
Bill
Jarrod Ankenman
Gavin Griffin
Kenny Shei
Matt Hawrilenko

and various other people that are teh smart

hehe yeah I caught that one too while we were recording...TC had my headset otherwise I would have called him on it...not the first c-bomb on the cast and hopefully won't be the last!

adam..you said you would never pay back the money like the guys from the hollywood game, but let's say you were in tom dwan's position and you won and howard pays you lets say 5 million$
would you say the same thing here?

cause in both cases they stole the money

Not adam but for me...

The main problem that makes the issue grey is that Howard has earned lots of money that legitimately belongs to him but has always been paid a bunch more recently that people feel doesn't belong to him. Remember, FTP was a profitable successful company for several years before things went sideways. Say Tom wins a $1mil bracelet bet from Howard, no could never determine for sure whether the money from Howard was being paid out of funds that he legitimately earned or funds that belonged to players. Fact is if he lost, Howard owes Tom his money just as equally as he owes FTP players their money. One debt is no more important than the other. The players won it at the tables, Tom won in it in a prop bet. A debt is a debt. The difference in the two cases is that the hedge fund scammer definitely paid his losses with stolen money(the only money he had) while Howard could hypothetically be paying his loss with his own earned money or with the player money(no one could ever be certain).

Durrrr is in such a tough spot. If he is agreeable to pay the debt if he loses(no matter how much he may despise doing it), then he has to be willing to accept the money if he wins(regardless of the possible shadiness behind the money he receives). I'd hate to be in Tom's shoes here especially if the bet with Howard is that big.

Also, can't compare Tom's spot to the Hollywood guys, because the law hasn't asked Tom for money. The law asked Tobey Maguire et al for $$.

Great discussion about bubble saves, both in the show and in this thread.

I'm pretty sure it was Court Harrington, but someone on PokerRoad Radio had a good recommendation for dealing with being the dissenting vote on a bubble save: quietly talk to the TD during a break as the tournament approaches the bubble. Let him/her know that you would oppose any sort of deal, but that you want to keep it anonymous (hence the conversation). Then when someone proposes the bubble save, the TD can inform everyone that there is already a vote against it, and no such deal will happen.

Of course, Adam's example of the TD singling out the voter would negate this. But that's such a douchey move that I would no longer care about anyone's opinion of me.

Geez, 222 episodes? I might have missed a few... but I'll go ahead and listen to this one.

(Premature edit: What the hell! I'm not in this at ALL.)

I lol'd