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Old 01-31-2017, 08:17 PM   #1
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Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Episode #447 - January 31st, 2017

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios - On this episode of the Pokercast: Terrence is back in Thailand after a stint at the Aussie millions and we’ve got news and strategy to catch you up on! First off Adam has been addicted to HSP reruns, Terrence has a fight scheduled and our podcast is shortlisted for an American Poker Award. In ICYMI: Aussie Millions has wrapped up, we recap the series and Terrence gives us a trip report. A handheld device-free tournament is proposed and more. Doug Polk joins us to give us an insider scoop of how the Brains vs. AI challenge has been going and whether or not computers have ruined poker for us yet. After a break we get Run It Once coach Paul Atwal back on the line and Adam and him break down some NLH strat including continuation betting, one on one coaching and what he’s learned reviewing subscribers play. After Paul we review Terrence’s Aussie Millions hands, a couple of Ross’ live hands and crack open the Mailbag to answer a few of your Voice and E mails!

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Old 01-31-2017, 08:35 PM   #2
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

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Old 01-31-2017, 08:48 PM   #3
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:09 PM   #4
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:15 PM   #5
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Wow, I completely forgot about the Playmate model who played on High Stakes Poker.

Here is a link to a 2+2 thread that gives the hand histories and winnings and losings of every player on HSP by season and overall.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/37...t=hsp+database
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:27 AM   #6
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Mimi Tran was on as well so question is wrong?
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:02 AM   #7
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What up?
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:13 PM   #8
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

I would have bet good money that Mimi Tran was on HSP.

Edit: Just saw Big Toe's post, too. And yes, she was...



Also, I'm guessing the Nicolette Shea listing was someone's idea of fun. I'm pretty sure I would have noticed if a Cyber Girl had made it, as I'm a bit of a Playboy trivia geek (especially at that time).

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Old 02-01-2017, 04:01 PM   #9
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Oops!

I'm going to blame Norm Macdonald for this one, as he said it on one of the episodes I watched on Twitch.
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:40 PM   #10
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

That Dong Pork guy sounds really good at poker. Does he play, or just do commentary on Humans v. Robots?

Glad to hear Ross is back playing the pokerz. Losing him permanently to sports betting would be a huge shame.

One nit to pick with Terrence on the "should the hand be dead" question -- didn't pay attention to the exact board, but if there was some chance the hero's hand might have been mis-declared, I think the dealer was correct. The dealer hears the declaration "6 high" and thinks the player is declaring a 6 high straight and caused his opponent to muck. He looks at the turned up hand and sees not only is it not a straight but is actually 6 high, I think protecting the muck and calling the floor is correct. There's game integrity around not letting people make misleading declarations. The floor comes and rules that the declaration was correct (or at least not enough bad to be an angle), so that's fine. However, the dealer might have done a great job here. If he thinks that the 6 high call might have induced an incorrect fold, I think the floor is the correct person to rule and the dealer should protect the muck and call out for help.

Hope TChan has a great training camp. Stay healthy, sir.
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:49 PM   #11
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Oops!

I'm going to blame Norm Macdonald for this one, as he said it on one of the episodes I watched on Twitch.
Haha can't believe you actually fell for that one!

Very interesting discussion with both Doug and Paul, I actually watched the first part of Paul's series you were talking about a couple of days ago so I found the strat talk all the more engaging.

And thanks for the update on hardcore history! It sounds like another great show so far.
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:13 PM   #12
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Oops!

I'm going to blame Norm Macdonald for this one, as he said it on one of the episodes I watched on Twitch.
He also probably had someone add it to the Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...h_Stakes_Poker
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:16 PM   #13
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Not statistically different from first . . ?
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:18 PM   #14
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Great show guys! I've got an email coming to the mailbag...
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:45 PM   #15
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Should've checked here before tweeting, lots of people mentioned the third woman on HSP already

To the guy who sent in the I am Cave story: your voice is super relaxing, you could make some side money with an ASMR YouTube channel
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:51 PM   #16
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

By the way, Ross, about the rule that if a bet is Called on the river, and the one guy Insta-Mucks, the other guy can also muck and scoop the pot....

To expand on that....
Any hand wherever a bet is called on the river and goes to showdown, any player at the table has a right to see the winning hand, even if it's tossed to the muck. The reason being that it prevents collusion.

Very few people do this though, it's considered bad etiquette even though it is fully within the rules.
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:31 AM   #17
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Hi Guys,
Another Great Show.
The PODCAST i wait for all week - always the 1st one that gets listened to.

Im interested in your thoughts on the 250k not getting started at the Aussie Millions / the rake of the 100k needing to be halved to get a hand full of runners. Terrance did you hear anything whilst you were in Melb ?

Hope your all well : TChan hope you continue to travel safely : Adam & Ross Hope its not too cold up the top of the world

Keep Up the Good World Gents

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Old 02-05-2017, 05:42 PM   #18
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Hey guys... Can someone please tell me the dates and venue for T's next fight in Calgary??? I think he said it was in March... I'm thinking about a trip up north... Thanks in advance... oh, and if Ross or T sees this: What's the odds that there will be a final episode 7 of "All In Or Knocked Out?" ... asking for a friend ;-)
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:27 AM   #19
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Next episode will come out... probably after T's fight I'd like to go see the fight as well if possible so we'll have to figure out the ticket situation!

And thanks penguin, we'll have to address that on the next ep.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:32 PM   #20
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Didnt he say March 17th? I could be wrong on that, but pretty sure he says a date in the episode.

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Old 02-10-2017, 08:28 AM   #21
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For the guy who wants to play in UK he should look up DTD Poker room in Nottingham
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:11 AM   #22
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

I missed the name - who were they talking about that was making videos on tells and people were getting upset? Where can I find his content?
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:36 PM   #23
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Re: Pokercast 447 - Brains vs AI with Doug Polk, Aussie Millions recap & RIO Coach Paul Atwal

Pretty sure he named more than one person in the segment. Not sure which you are looking for. Joe Navarro was the one he couldn't think of but referenced from the older ESPN broadcasts

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Old 02-12-2017, 01:14 AM   #24
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I missed the name - who were they talking about that was making videos on tells and people were getting upset? Where can I find his content?
RIO coach Garrett Adelstein. http://www.runitonce.com/users/gman/bio/
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