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Old 12-14-2016, 06:29 AM   #1
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Pokercast 442 - Story Time with Barry Greenstein, Online Poker Traffic & HU 4 Rollz

Episode #442 - December 14th, 2016

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios
- On this episode of the Pokercast: We are joined by Barry Greenstein, a man of many epic stories. Barry takes a break from his session to tell us a wild degenerate tale involving Phil Ivey and other poker notables. First off we chat about how Terrence is living it up, Ross is on his way to warmer weather and Adam is hanging out at the rink. This week in the news: We look at what sites (other than stars) have been driving the most traffic and the answer might surprise you, Steve Ruddock of OnlinePokerReport gets on the line with us to give us the details on how the online landscape is changing. Other stories include LuckyChewy planning to start a new poker site, Cate Hall/Mike Dentale twitter beef and HU 4 Rollz. Then we get Barry G on the line who regales us with some wild tales of degeneracy such as him being pressured to hold large sums money for strangers, John Hennigan, Tuan Le and of course Phil Ivey. After Barry we get into some 140 Or Less, Mailbag and some hands in the Ross Report.

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Old 12-14-2016, 07:06 AM   #2
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:47 AM   #3
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:11 AM   #4
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:42 AM   #5
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This sounds fun. Only have a few minutes of driving today, so may have to take a long detour.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:51 PM   #6
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As always, Barry knocks it out of the park. Any idea which tournament Ivey had the top three in?
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Old 12-15-2016, 03:35 PM   #7
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Something something bubble? Really excited to listen to Barry's story
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:43 PM   #8
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Love Barry. MOAR etc.
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:05 PM   #9
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Love Barry. MOAR etc.
You even got the Seventhbok slot in a Barry thread.
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Old 12-15-2016, 07:30 PM   #10
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Barry G stories deliver.

I would love to play Drawmaha, but my regular poker game disbanded and the last home cash game I played in they could barely handle the rules of hold 'em.
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Old 12-16-2016, 01:05 AM   #11
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You know when you expect something to be really good, and then it is better? Barry G on the pokercast is even better than that. Nice work, everyone.
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Old 12-16-2016, 09:59 AM   #12
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You know when you expect something to be really good, and then it is better? Barry G on the pokercast is even better than that. Nice work, everyone.
What he said. I'd be perfectly happy listening to Barry G's degen stories every week.
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Old 12-16-2016, 10:08 AM   #13
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loved this episode guys! Was awesome to get Barry on for some old-time stories, what a legend!
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Old 12-17-2016, 07:07 AM   #14
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hi
as i understood from joey podcast, chewy and his indian friends made the software from scratch because they are into this domain , and yes portugal is
the nuts for grinding online or vacation , 80cent coffee 1$ beer, all size of shrimps, sick nightlife , sick beaches and huge waves, everybody say hello to each other, its basically paradise
much love pokercast crew, btw its -22 here
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:42 PM   #15
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Re: Pokercast 442 - Story Time with Barry Greenstein, Online Poker Traffic & HU 4 Rollz

Howe is #2 if you include WHA points. #3 is Hull...

You should probably give him his money back.


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Old 12-17-2016, 05:48 PM   #16
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Re: Pokercast 442 - Story Time with Barry Greenstein, Online Poker Traffic & HU 4 Rollz

Might as well include his points in peewee too then!
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:58 PM   #17
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If you look at his Wikipedia, it says

NHL Totals
WHA Totals
minor league totals

And GFY
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:54 PM   #18
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See how WHA and minor leagues are below NHL. So there's that.
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Seems rash. Why?
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:24 AM   #21
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moar deejean tails!
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:56 PM   #22
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I can't wait for Heads-Up for Rolls! or as Adam would put it, Head-Up for Rolls!
Keep us updated on this situation.
Has there been any back and forth since the negotiation?
Terrence is right, straight off them playground days.
"U did what? U suck!?!" lol
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Old 12-22-2016, 06:48 PM   #23
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Re: Pokercast 442 - Story Time with Barry Greenstein, Online Poker Traffic & HU 4 Rollz

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Howe is #2 if you include WHA points. #3 is Hull...

You should probably give him his money back.
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Might as well include his points in peewee too then!
I don't know hockey very well so I can't speak to how the WHA rates up to the NHL. Was it more of a minor league? Or was it an upstart and short-lived competitor to the NHL? If the latter, there would be precedent for including it when it comes to records and all-time leaders.

For baseball, MLB (as the name suggests) considers totals from either the National League and American League. Most people know that part. Fewer people realize that the Federal League's two years also count in totals for record-keeping purposes. So Mordecai Brown ranks 55th in career wins (239), even though 31 of them came in that short-lived upstart circuit.

Of course, the minor leagues don't figure in MLB totals. Neither do the various winter leagues, the Mexican League, Japanese leagues or the Negro leagues. The Mexican League gets treated as a Triple-A minor league, which is about right in terms of its level of play. I would argue the JPPL should probably get similar comparisons as the Mexican League but for now, it is pretty much an entity unto itself. Regardless, the totals don't count, and shouldn't, in my opinion.

Of the all-black leagues prior to baseball's integration, the Negro American League may have compared very favorably with the MLBs, especially in the late 1930s and 1940s, but we'll never know. Of course, stats from that league range from incomplete to nonexistent, and even if they were reliable, you still would have an apples/oranges relationship going on. So how Oscar Charleston would have compared to Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb among the best CFs of the day is only the stuff of thought experiments.

In American football, the NFL includes players' stats from the AFL and the AAFC. So e.g. Len Dawson is listed for 239 career TD passes even though most of that was in the old maverick league. Y.A. Tittle shows up with 33,070 passing yards despite spending the first two in the AAFC.

On the other hand, the CFL and USFL are not counted in the records. So Warren Moon shows up in the books as having thrown for 49,325 yards rather than 70,553. Steve Young does not credit for the 4,102 yards he amassed for the L.A. Express, thus showing up at No. 32 with 33,124 yards. Of course, this all makes sense for one reason: the AFL and the AAFC eventually became a part of the NFL. The CFL and USFL have/did not. It also makes sense that the WLAF and NFL Europe stats are not included, as those are largely considered to be minor leagues.

Basketball is trickier. The NBA's all-time statistical rankings do not include ABA stats, so Julius Erving appears with 18,364 points rather than 30,026, the latter of which would put him sixth all-time. On the other hand, the NBA credits George Mikan for 10,156 points even though a sixth of those took place in the old BAA. When the Association celebrated its 50th anniversary, it clearly included the first three BAA seasons but not the preceding NBL (which merged with the BAA to form the NBA). Yet the NBA includes Schayes' 809 points in the NBL in its records.
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Old 12-26-2016, 02:24 AM   #24
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Brilliant! What a man BG.... stood the test of time. Pro's pro.
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on basketball-reference.com, they have all time leader boards for NBA, ABA, and combined. So yes, trickier indeed.
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