Episode #429 - September 20th, 2016

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios - On this episode of the Pokercast: The guys are back together after a night of drunkenly yelling “hit him in the face!” while Terrence wins a third consecutive professional fight. We talk about that and then get into the news. This week: A strange ruling on one of the recent Main Event episodes on ESPN sparks a discussion, the Las Vegas NHL team narrowed down to 3 names, WCOOP and more. We review some interesting tweets as well in “140 or less” and dive into your mail! Topics in the mail this week include “Entrepreneurial Life”, An intuitive new idea about how to rake in pots and private games. We review a couple of Terrence’s WCOOP hands as well.

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first yay yay yay

I don't know what's on-time or late anymore. Very well played.

Turd

yay

Congrats Terrence

We're not as think as you dumb we are

This am happy very I release new of. You thank !

Regarding the Home Game App idea. The cops are not the worst problem, as you guys pointed out there are places where home games are legal.

The real problem is it's a criminal's wet dream. You're proposing an app that publicly advertises which homes in your area are going to have thousands of dollars on the kitchen table tonight.

The only solution to that I can think of is if the app handles all the money electronically. You show up to the 1/2 home game, transfer $200 to the host on the app, and he gives you 100BB of chips. You cash out and he transfers the correct amount back to you on the app. That's a lot of responsibility to put on the app though.

That doesn't seem too bad. You put the money in escrow and agree on the amount returned with the house.

Yeah, I think that's the way it would have to be done. My worry is that it could introduce a lot more legal hoops to jump through if the app is handling that much cash.

#Kassoufdidnothingwrong #Caprisin2016 #9highlikeaboss

I agree it is never enforced, but I think Terrence misinterpreted the actual written rule in the one part. Rule 113 E1 - "Participant is allowed to mention the strength or content of their hand if no other participant in the hand will have a decision to make" T then adds "which is the case, they are in a heads up pot" - but that isn't what this rule is referring to. Isn't this the opposite situation where Player A shoves all in, Player B sits there talking out whether they should call or not and can say what they have in the process. So basically she could say what she has during the decision but he can't.

Ike and Ben at TC's fight?

That's the dream (machine) rail.

Kassof has been on EPT live a few times. They call it "speech play". I'm not sure if that's a real thing or not. Watching him on a live stream is extremely annoying, I can't imagine being stuck at a table with him.

Rule #116 Etiquette violation due to excessive chatter seems like it makes sense in the Kassouf hand. I am all for being allowed to talk heads up at a poker table- but in this instance the floor was called due to Kassouf's chatter, he was told not to talk further, and he continued trying to communicate to his opponent. After the floor tells him not to talk during the hand anymore- this is pretty much a warning and Kassouf should be responsible for the potential repercussions if he decides not to pay attention to the floors decision. He then decides to communicate through miming. While clever, this is not really in the spirit of what the floor decided as far as if he should be allowed to talk during the hand. I'm OK with the penalty.

Having liistened to the podcast, it sounds like the caller is talking about a Tinder-like app for poker home games.

That would work pretty good? The home games could send verified info to the app, everyone could rate eachother, you could vet the player before ever meeting them, meet them at the coffee shop.

Not sure how I feel about Kassouf.

On the one hand, a character is good for the game. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be on his table if it was my first main event and I can see how some rec's could be put off by his approach.

Regarding the hand, I don't see any penalty there. I know Jack was trying to deter the situation from escalating, which is probably a wise move, as someone else said, he has a tough job managing the main and for the most part I think the staff do an excellent job, so you have to let the odd mis-step slide (not that I think this is a mis-step). I think what he did was dick-ish, and I wouldn't have liked it if I was the QQ hand.

I actually had more issue with her comments after the bust out. She said she was calling 80-90% of the time, but folded due to his talk and the clock being called. Sorry, but that should not be the reason to fold. I'm not good enough to fold QQ in that spot, had she said she had a read or he played it this way before.... I could get behind the fold. To say he was doing "penalty deserving" antics is just wrong, and she runs a poker school or something?

Where can we check out a replay of Terrence's recent fight? Hopefully, including Mike's hollering?
#adamsperiscope

Okay, good... I'm not the only one who found this tilting.

The guys were talking about how good Kassouf's table talk was, and referenced the Zach Elwood's teachings about tells. It's worth nothing – to Kassouf's credit – that he engaged in the same type of talk when he had the nine-high straight flush and she folded top pair. Nine-high straight flush in one hand, nine high in the other... talk about balancing your Hollywooding range.

On a different note: the guys wondered why the Silver Knights is an option for the NHL team nickname. While I also like Desert Knights among the three choices, Silver Knights might be the most appropriate of the three because of the historical connection to the Comstock Lode. (I agree that Golden is the worst, by the way)

Put simply: silver is to Nevada what gold was to California, which is why the two states have their nicknames. The gold rush took place in the late 1840s – hence the San Francisco NFL team name – leading directly to California's statehood in 1850. Similarly, a silver rush took place in the late 1860s and early 1860s, leading to Nevada's statehood in 1864.

I suppose another possible name for a Las Vegas sports team could have been the 59ers, but the Pacific Coast League team (51s) already beat everyone to punch of having a number a nickname.

You're 100% right, cops aren't the worst problem. As a host, they're actually the least of your worries.

And your solution, was absolutely one that we considered. However, that's just not gonna work.

One mis-assumption is in the idea of "advertising home games in your area". This would also never work, and of course has been discussed and considered by my team.

I'm already not too thrilled that this is being discussed. I said on the Pokercast that I couldn't talk much about it, and I can't. But, I'm a poker player at heart... and I can't help it. This is gonna be a game changer.

http://geopoker.us is my blog, maybe that can provide some more insight.

http://geopoker.us/blog/the-first-geopoker-blog-post/

I'm always open to hearing thoughts and ideas..

...What.

Is this seriously implying that games will only be listed if the app creator has played in them?

LOL

You know, it's just that I'm still having trouble dealing with the reality that these home games are not just a poker table in the back of a store, that they are really private casinos.

I was just imagining you visiting the basement of Donald's house in Yellowknife.

I guess you would get paid for making the connection, as a service to the card room, or in return for a partnership with them. You could read that second quote as you demanding money and a soft game to keep on the good list.

Tinder for poker would be a more difficult business model.