Episode #420 - August 7th, 2016

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios - This week on the Pokercast: The guys are back together in Vancouver for a special episode. Your e-mails and voicemails have been piling up for a couple of weeks and there are some great ones, there are also some awesome ones! We get through as many of them as we can. We also get into some news including: Jason Mercier gets grilled on ESPN, The November 9 ICM, Phil Hellmuth to appear in a TV show and more. We also run through some tweets in “140 or less” as well as some hand reviews and a somewhat degenerate story in the Roscoe Report.

Music: Peter Tosh - Legalize It

Ross Report Hands:
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November 9 ICM Table Referenced in ICYMI

The forum is asleep.

Billions was created by Brian Koppleman who made Rounders. He also does a podcast called the moment which has had several poker players. I am guessing this is why next season has a poker storyline. He is definitely not a poker noob.

420 bob

4th20ish. It is a crying shame that the 420th poker cast ended up being a nugglet.

In this show, the question came up again whether somebody in poker has ever taken all the money and disappeared . In 2013, Niklas “ragen70” Heinecker made over 6 millions in the online highstakes games and apparently had a huge piece of some super high roller win. Apparently, he has pretty much left poker soon after.

Especially since Episode 69 had Annie Duke's husband.

Like the idea of having Ian on the podcast. I Personally live in NYC and play in one game here but would love to here his take on the underground scene

Me too, I agree.

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those are zeros not ohhs

"I'm very surprised to learn that there is no sound drop for 11," said Nigel Tufnel.

I would like MTT's where stacks could be sold to other players during breaks - why do ICM calculations if deals can not be made?

I think your idea will get at least SOME support:

Have you guys got another sponsor in the offing Adam,?sure hope the 'Cast dont go the way that Stars has. Good riddance to the clip joint anyways.Talk about couldn't run a party in a brewery,Stars (Amaya) sure take the cake there.

e mail No.7 is missing...

^^^ This

Its looking bad for all things online re poker.The fields are getting smaller and the dolts put rake up.Its not even fun playing the play money games on Stars either as they only play shove or limp shove,or limp call shove for 75BBs.Although i made last deposit about a year back i still haven't erased Stars from my PC as i thought i would play around some if i got the urge to play a bit so i occasionally got in a play money game. What a complete waste of time that is,you only get to play about 4 hands a game if you are running hot,just jam. jam. shove.

Its sorta hard to give away a thing that i put so much time into over the years but logic dictates that one channels ones energies into something a little less cruel,something that does not reward Villains for playing A) Like a halfwit and ruining your game with one and two outer calls, and binking religiously and ruining your tournie etc.

B)I can't think of another game where a complete moron and his play, can have such an outcome on ones own play. IE where Z grade players can beat G grade players through their own bad play,just too cruel when it consistently happens and i dont wish to play so many tables that those sort of players dont affect ones bottom line.I dont actively throw mice, or break things on tilt, i guess that my way of tilting was to just stop playing when i copped too many bad events in a session.

This is probably not the place to get into this, and it's hardly the first time it has come up, but Z-grade players winning despite or sometimes because of their own bad play is precisely makes them so profitable to skilled players. That's a good thing. Ideally, you'd want those players to win so often that they'll stay in poker for as long as possible. If it happens too rarely, many weaker players will simply stop playing. It's the counterpart to Sport Sullivan's "feed him just enough for him to know he's hungry" line in Eight Men Out.

One of the unintended consequences of the poker boom was the overall skill level –*particularly online – increasing significantly. I'd love to see the data on it, as I have to imagine the overall win rate (or loss rate, as it was) for beginning players was much better in 2005 than it was in 2015. Thus, new players lose faster and faster, they enter the poker economy less often, yada yada, unsustainable ecosystem.

When I first saw the title of the episode "A Fat Sack of Male," I thought, "At last, a show for me!"

Interesting listening to the first voicemail being Ian, who was just a guest on the episode released today.