Episode #414 - June 17th, 2016

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios - This week on the Pokercast: The poker news (and gossip) keeps flowing in steadily from Vegas and we’re here like a mother bird to chew it up and regurgitate it back to you. Terrence is down there with a recap of his week on the felt and we get into this week’s winners and stories from the Rio. Aside from the bracelet winners some of the big stories this week include the Jason Mercier & Vanessa Selbst bracelet bet gone wrong, Neymar at the WSOP, a player leaves a bag of cash in an Uber and more.
Brandon Shak Harris is our guest this week, but we aren’t able to keep him for long as he has to return to the tournament he’s currently running up a stack in, we chat about his summer schedule and expectations for himself plus some of the big mixed games he’s been playing in LA.
After Brandon we get into your voice and E-mails! Lots of strategy questions this week as well as more how much would it take propositions. Terrence and Ross run through some more hands in the Rossco Report and the passwords and formats to the final Pokerstars invitationals are included as always!

Music: Music: Rainbow Kitten Surprise - American Shoes (2015) / Greyboy -- Top Floor (1995)

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First!!

boomshakalaka

Ah, cha, cha, cha

Podium agin,getting easy!

podium miss

Final Table

wsop!

And another FT

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For some reason, despite the fact that I'll never play it and am not American anyway, it tilts the hell out of me that they call it the millionaire maker but the Americans who win it will get like $600k or whatever due to tax.

Chris Ferguson needs to burn the duster

Hey, I'm not burning the duster! Okay, I'm not burning the duster. Alright. That's crazy. That's like... that's insane. Why would I ever burn... heh... I mean c'mon... I will continue to wear it in his honor and I will burn some other things. You know, maybe like these stupid god damn sleeveless t-shirts that he wants "retired" and hung up in the bar. I'll burn these, but I am not burning the duster. Okay? So forget it. It probably won't even burn anyway. It's not supposed to, it's flame ******ant. That's like the whole point. It's like a shield of armor. So stop asking me to burn the duster! I'm not going to burn it! So... end of story, you know? Let's just move on. Okay? So... yeah, alright, well uh thank you.

The Cheapa Thrilla,Very Nearly,Silly Milly Maker.
And no duster burning either.

Jason just binked Bracelet #2 in the 10K HORSE,id like to be a fly on the wall at the Selbst household.

Crazy sweat for Vanessa now

She could have called MJ.

Adam, I hope everything is ok with your family. Best wishes.

Good show, guys. I am still shaking my head about Vanessa making it sound like Jason is a bad guy for declining to buy out.

Thanks for the sentiments.

Wife's sister choked on food and went quite a while without oxygen. Doesn't look good. CT scans etc are done and get results Monday but docs are saying not much hope.

Big thanks to T and Roscoe for taking the show home this week.

Sorry to hear, Adam. Our thoughts are with you and your family.

Oh my god, that's sad news. Fingers crossed for you.

So sorry man.

Jesus, mate, that's horrible. Hoping for your two-outer

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Adam, wishing the best for you and your family.
Hey Ross, hope all is well. Listening for the hands of the last few weeks, I'm not sure if it is selection bias in show hands or what your overall play is like, but you haven't been talking about any "ChicagoJoey's favorite hand UTG" in a long while. Suddenly this week you're playing 7543-double suited in EP at .5/1? In a lot of the old DC videos on LHE, you'd have the coach say "this one will be good for our viewers" and play a hand that was marginal/clear-fold. In the early days before you were doing PLO-quick pro, you played these hands (or talked about them) all the time. Of late, every hand discussed has been solid. Just making sure that your hand selection overall is still good, and that your losing streak hasn't lead to adding marginal hands due to tilt or whatever...

Also you mentioned your all-time high water mark of results, and that you were under that. It is a pet peeve, and here's why. If you looked at results once a month, you'd have a big filter to smooth out swongs. On the long term you'd have your trend, and you'd sometimes be under. However, not that miserable. You could also look at a 30 day moving average (take the last 30, and your avg result), which would also smooth your results. You could also look at your results so far this year, or your lifetime winnings. Each has pros and cons.

Now what if you wanted to be as miserable as possible? To do this, you'd look at your database hand by hand and look for your highest point. You'd call that your "maximum win" or some-such and then in the future you'd pay a BB or something and then refer to your results as "I'm down 1BB from my max". You'd always be either even or down, because any time you go over you reset to zero. You hit a few hot hands early in a session, reset the bar, and then lose some back while still winning a couple buyins? You're down 4 BI from your max, and you're still miserable. Don't do this, because this method is the maximally efficient way to measure poker results to make yourself feel bad. If you've made 2000BB this year, but at one point you were up 5000BB, it feels like you're in a bottomless hole (3000 under water) instead of having a nice year. I'm sure Adam or TC could explain it better. However, I see this mental leak all the time. You're basically setting yourself to be either around zero or way down with no up side.

solid post Doug!

“Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle.”
― Plato

Sorry to hear Adam, hope all turns out well.

Re: the listener email asking about learning mixed games, there is a book called mixed games by Ken Lo, explaining rules and basic strategy for games you'd find in a standard 8 games as well as other games that are making their way into mixes like badeucey, badacey, and razzdugi. Sounds like exactly what you're looking for. Picked it up at one of the stands at the WSOP