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01-24-2016 , 01:08 PM
Actually, looks like it will run, only needed 3. SO EXCITING!!! Thank goodness I'm protected by my government from actually playing for real money
01-24-2016 , 02:03 PM
I registered to the PM to. But afraid it will be cancelled again if we don't get another 3 players withing 1 minute.
01-25-2016 , 01:10 PM
Any one got a picture of the Aaron Jones tattoo?
01-27-2016 , 10:33 PM
In re the discussion on whether sports gamblers call the athletics department to fish for information, I can confirm that they absolutely do -- or did, as of a few years ago.

The various wire services (mostly SportsTicker, but also Stats, Inc., and ESPN) used to call into our home games on regular intervals, looking for a score update. So any Division I team has a "press-row phone" to field these. In the heydays, you were looking at several calls per minute on nights where not many teams were playing. Nowadays, I suspect they simply refer to live-stats feeds (we use StatBroadcast here at UC Davis). ESPN pulls info directly from my computer. So that phone hasn't run all season.

Knowing this, gamblers used to call shortly before game time to find out if a key player was in action. As Adam mentioned, they would sometimes claim to be from a given outlet: e.g. "calling from SportsTicker... is Hawkins playing tonight? We heard he might be hurt." Never mind that the real SportsTicker didn't care about this stuff. It often amused me that anyone was checking in mid-major Div. I, but clearly they were. If I answered the phone and knew it was a gambler, I couldn't give them their intel if I wanted to, as the NCAA has rules prohibiting it.

To be honest, I think they still check on schools, but they do so via live stats and/or social media. I haven't received these calls since we switched to StatBroadcast in 2014, which further leads me to believe that service has all but made those calls extinct.

As for the pros, I don't have as much first-hand experience. One of the Sacramento Kings' team docs used to work out at my previous gym. Another members, an avid NBA gambler, used to try to shake some injury updates out of him. But HIPAA laws prevented the good doctor from giving anything up. However, I assume some medical personnel are not shy about letting a quick tip get to some close friends.
01-27-2016 , 10:51 PM
So weird: not five minutes after posting that, we got a call asking about a visiting player from Cal State Fullerton.
01-28-2016 , 04:21 PM
Re: names of hands:

Quads is also called "poker" in Italy, Czech Rep and Slovakia to my knowledge. In a lot of countries (including CZ & SK) the word for "flush" translates as "colour" and the word for Queen is something like "lady" or "dame" rather than literally queen.

The locals in Slovakia call KK koniky which means "little horses" and is presumably derrived from the German word for King, "konig" and AK is often called Ace-Horse ("eso-kon").

They also occasionally use names of suits from traditional German decks (hearts, leaves, bells and acorns) but they don't agree among themselves about what the correspondence is supposed to be to the suits in western decks.

In my (English) family the more bizarre terms based on several steps of logic are used for brag hands. Probably English poker players use some brag-influenced terms but I've never actually played at home before.

Last edited by LektorAJ; 01-28-2016 at 04:27 PM.
01-28-2016 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Re: names of hands:

Quads is also called "poker" in Italy, Czech Rep and Slovakia to my knowledge. In a lot of countries (including CZ & SK) the word for "flush" translates as "colour" and the word for Queen is something like "lady" or "dame" rather than literally queen.

The locals in Slovakia call KK koniky which means "little horses" and is presumably derrived from the German word for King, "konig" and AK is often called Ace-Horse ("eso-kon").

They also occasionally use names of suits from traditional German decks (hearts, leaves, bells and acorns) but they don't agree among themselves about what the correspondence is supposed to be to the suits in western decks.

In my (English) family the more bizarre terms based on several steps of logic are used for brag hands. Probably English poker players use some brag-influenced terms but I've never actually played at home before.
I love this discussion in general because I'm fascinated by regional variations in terms people use.

When I first learned what poker was decades ago, my dad called a full house a full boat. I still hear both but it's heavily weighted toward "house" now. I can't tell if it's a regional difference, or an age difference.

I used to dabble in Mexican Poker (5-card stud with 8s-Ts removed and a bug) at the Bicycle Club. "English only" was not enforced at the table (I mean even less so than normal in LA-area card rooms). I learned many terms for hands and ranks.

"Caballeros" or "cowboys" for KK is not so different. I've heard that used in English. They used "jotas" for JJ. Now that one seems innocuous at first, because the word for "j" in Spanish is "jota." But "jota" is also a term for a gay male in Mexican Spanish slang, and not a nice one at that. My favorite was "escalera" or "stairs" for a straight. I just liked the sound of it and the visual image of each card sitting on a step in increasing rank.
01-29-2016 , 01:48 AM
Haven't posted in the forum in a while but haven't missed an episode, still listening every week, still enjoying every week. Keep up the good work
01-29-2016 , 03:45 AM
GG Bunner!!! Great news!
01-29-2016 , 07:20 PM
Could not be happier about the Bunner bink

Congrats man
01-30-2016 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by STinLA
When I first learned what poker was decades ago, my dad called a full house a full boat. I still hear both but it's heavily weighted toward "house" now. I can't tell if it's a regional difference, or an age difference.
Interesting. I haven't played live in almost two years now, so for all I know things have changed greatly. But I feel like I hear "boat" far more often (but not "full boat"), and that I'm more likely to hear "____ full" or "filled up" than the precise term "full boat."

Speaking of changes in poker jargon, in case anyone hasn't done it in a while, go look back at Doyle's section on NLHE in the original Super System. He uses terms like "the fall" (instead of the flop) and "first button" (top pair), which I assume was the lingo of the era.
01-31-2016 , 08:52 PM
Woot go Bunner

      
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