That's the sadness about all that. He acts like he hadn't done anything unethical or immoral.

Was disappointed with Lee Jones and his comments(or lack of comments) regarding bots and the whole Noel Hayes/Brian Hastings fiasco. I get that he may not want to say much for legal reasons, but he pretty much avoided answering the questions in any meaningful way. Either Pokerstars knows and has known about the extent that bots and multi-accounting has been going on and can't/won't do anything about it, or they are in the dark. Neither option is very appealing.

You have to separate Lee as an individual and Lee the PokerStars employee who is making an official corporate appearance on a show that they sponsor. He mentioned actual legal restrictions about disclosure on individual player information. You have to know that Stars has claims of business as well as security reasons to not say much. It seems fair to say "Stars should be more forthcoming", but Lee is a guy who works there and his actual job is to communicate their official stance. Doesn't seem fair to say "disappointed in Lee".

I didn't like lots of their official line, and it seemed glib to claim they knew all about this all along... unless they've got all the profits locked up and are about to redistribute them to the PLO community. If a huge botting ring has been crushing the game for months, knowing about it and watching seems the suck.

Never going to get the full story from Lee, but at least he was willing to discuss it.

Have to say it is very depressing that high stakes players like Brian Hastings seem to think was he has done is wrong, but has excuses for it. As far as I am concerned this is flat out unethical and cheating.

5 maybe even 3 years ago multiaccounting was a grey area, but now, no way!

I remember Steve Day being on the show and stating that if you vpn from America you will be found, money withheld and account barred - maybe I don't remember the full details, but that was the gist of it.

So, basically Hastings bought an account of what was probably a losing player, played at the highest stakes, where players would think they were playing against someone who they would have had hands on and used this in their thought process. He thinks this is acceptable! I remember watching him play against Ivey and others and the way the tables filled, pretty sure the games were originally due to 'this over player' being in the game..

He then played from America, where it is flat out banned!

What I also find annoying is that this story is not covered on PokerNews - I even tweeted them asking if they have covered this. They replied and said no!
So this is not even counted as news - just like FTP and Ultimate was not covered on their site until it was too big not to cover (negative news is not news!)

We need to make poker acceptable and respectable - the first step in this is to take steps to stop this happening and sites like Pokernews should be covering this and doing everything they can as a poker news website to make people aware of the scummy things that some of the top players do!

Anyway, enough rant - great show, enjoyed the JRB interview and Russ's stories at the end - hope he does not go broke next time he gets back to Vegas!

I get what both of you ^^^^^ are saying. And I am much more disappointed with PokerStars than with Lee. But, and maybe this is a naïve attitude, it would be nice for someone to come out and tell the truth onetime. Would have been better to just say "no comment" instead of regurgitating the company line.

Has anyone checked the GPI-WSOP POY formula to see if its possible that NoelHayes could win the POY title?

Just sayin.

Sound quality is good. Stereo to I see. (I audio engineer)

Did you guys know that Adam Schwartz and Dan Idema are brothers?

Not sure if serious, or were attempting to crack open a pokercast scandal!

Wut?? WTF Bunner?

Adam was only able to bring it up 25 times on the latest pod so I'm sure some might have missed it.

It seems like it comes up like every other cast. At some point, we're getting the feeling that Adam and Dan are on good terms.

idk - Dan sounds Canadian

Apologies, just proud

Awesome stuff. Dan definitely sounded like a hockey player in a post game interview using hockeyspeak.

Makes you a good bro
Why are hockey guys such great interviews? Amazing/fun

Maybe my favorite commercial of all time

That's it. I was trying to find that on Tuesday!

Favorite moment from Rosco Report

Ross: "Tight UTG 3 bets, I Have KQ78 one suit"
Me in my head: "This is a clear fold"

Adam: "How is this even a hand! I'm folding 100/100 times here."

LOL!

As played interesting hand though.

It was KQ98 and of course it was an open, not a 3bet.

Actually came here specifically to post in defence of Ross. KQ98 one suit is a pretty easy call in position to one raise in most cases imo.

Don't let Adam grind ya down Ross. Also Adam, no way KQ98 isn't better than 7654. It's PLO *high*. I get what you're saying, how you're avoiding UTG's range with the 7654, but you still want the stronger starting hand in the long run.

On another topic, the whole thing about Hastings having bracelet bets against people who don't know he's been playing high stakes mixed games. I think Joe is way off base for saying that it's sour grapes if people complain about that.

Hastings is a poker celebrity and it is 100% reasonable that people are deciding whether to bet or not based on his previous results and action. Obviously he doesn't have to report all his action to his takers, but when his action is specifically unknown because he's cheating/masking his identity, it becomes relevant.

I'm not sure it's enough justification to void bets, but at the very least it's an understandable position and Joe being so dismissive of it was was off-putting. Throughout the podcast, in fact, he seemed pretty quick to give the "what's the big deal" treatment to several pretty big deals.

The problem with KQ98 is you get in SO many marginal spots that reverse implied odds is a huge factor. With 7654 you make the nuts much more often. Yes, you don't get paid very often but the hand is much easier to play for people still learning the game.

Someone please help me download this. I thought I was misclicking on the RSS feed because I downloaded 370 three times while trying to get 369. So I came here and click on the direct download link and got 370 again

try this: http://pokercast.s3.amazonaws.com/twoplustwo_369.mp3

7654 doesn't get to flop a 20-card wrap tho

That's what I've been trying, but it keeps downloading 370.