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Originally Posted by TChan
Nutrition: wheat and soy are the biggest killers imo. Getting rid of just those two is like 70% of the battle. They are the limping preflop of nutrition. Soy is a Frankenfood of the worst kind, creating all kinds of hormonal disruption in your body. From there we get into the basics like upping protein content to something like 0.5g per pound of bodyweight. Try to limit your carbs to only after you've exercised, or with dinner if you have trouble sleeping.
Hi Terrence.
Do you limit your carbs when you train to get into the ring with people?
The worry about carbs really baffles me. I admit I don't really know any of the science. It just seems really not intuitive that when someone is looking to be less fat that they should be warned about carbs rather than.. fat.
I've been using a site called cronometer.com (you enter everything you eat and it spits out your stats), and I don't fill all my nutrients until around 4000 calories for the day. And I'm sure I wouldn't feel good or have such a slender physique
if I was filling it up with fat and protein. So besides supplementing, I actually don't know how someone would eat a complete diet without loading up on carbs. It seems like that's the puzzle piece that makes everything work. (I don't personally "try" to fill nutrients, I just load up on what my body seems to want. It just dawned on me that this seems to be true.) I'd be curious to see what you eat in a typical day and how it adds up on cronometer.
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Originally Posted by TChan
You are largely correct that the populations who eat this way tend to live the longest. However that's both a potential problem and a solution in itself. These are all population studies which means that they aren't isolating for any specific variable.
Fair enough, but the correlation that they live long (and are very thin) has to put some kind of ceiling on how bad carbs could be, right? So while it doesn't prove that it's optimal or necessarily a secret to living long, it does suggest carbs aren't terrible. And it should raise the burden of proof on the idea that carbs are bad.
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^^^T. Colin Campbell, is that you? I've seen Forks over Knives as well, and it was a very interesting presentation and one of the reasons I have reduced the amount of meat in my diet. Of course I think we all know we can use more plants in our diet.
That said, I am always skeptical of scientists who can't get their info widely accepted by the mainstream. Not to say they aren't on to something, but I just find that type of thing to be a bit curious. Know what I mean?
So you were inspired by the advice but you're skeptical of it? With all the cancer, obesity, heart disease, etc. in Western countries, I'm skeptical of why anyone would think the mainstream could possibly be on to something.
The mainstream is always a trailing indicator (in anything). You won't do better than mediocre if you need the mainstream to agree before you feel comfortable about something.
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And before you say big meat producers keep us eating that stuff, no doubt that's true to a certain extent, but to take it further implies a giant conspiracy and int his day of open information and the internet I just can't believe it.
What does that even mean? You can't just say "conspiracy" as an excuse to stop thinking about something.
Just being used to it and friends and family doing it is probably bigger than direct marketing. But ya, there is plenty of marketing. And the main influence is probably that meat and dairy are artificially inexpensive due to subsidies. In the wild nobody captures a cow and impregnates her and holds her hostage and feeds her and milks her, it's a horribly inefficient use of energy. And the same concept is in play today and would reflect in a higher price if there wasn't a handful of people distributing resources arbitrarily.