I like this. Some friends of mine did this for a fantasy golf league a few years back. The majority of the prize pool covered the entire tour season, but we had side prizes for the four majors plus the Tour Championship at the end. Nothing huge (as your idea would be) but enough that you were freerolling the year if you could win two.

Could introduce a points system that rewards people more for getting more obscure finishes rather than just a straight points system. IE, Phil Hellmuth would pay less for a bracelet than Paul Jackson.

It could be a tariff where the more people choose a person, the less they pay out.

think that we need to keep it as simple as possible so that people feel comfortable entering this and it's not only for the hardcore fans. I think a very simple, straight forward main pool and whatever people want for the side pools.

btw I played with Paul Jackson earlier this year in a 25/25 event in Birmingham.

Are we allowing multi-entries this time around?

think we should side with Dan Shak and say no...

not good for the community long term

but if someone has 2 accounts and 2 emails then who would know...

Oh yeah, for sure. I'm just volunteering to be commish and escrow.

any more opinions on this?

Thoughts on possible categories?
Thoughts on potential side pots?

I have thought about it and would be ok with multi entries provided that each multiple entry cost $10 more than the last. Greater EV for the player doing it and jucier prize pool for those firing only one bullet

great job last year guys !!
can we get the rules out for this year so we can get started working on our picks for this year it will be here before we know it.
thanks again guys

I'll chime in next week with a proposal. Thanks!

Hi guys,

Long time lurker, long time listener. Even if this is just for the sake of keeping a few kittens alive, this is my somewhat elaborate fantasy suggestion that should give you the sweats and point differences your looking for.

Your selection would be based on a typical football team (and I mean real football, not that hand egg you guys play) in the usual 4-4-2 formation.

The Goalkeeper
This player needs to be high quality, so should have either;

• Over $1,000,000 in hendon mob cashes
• 2 or more WSOP bracelets
• made the final table of the main event

To score points, he needs to keep a clean sheet. So is therefore penilized for cashing;

• -2 for a cash
• -5 for a final table
• -10 for a win
• -10 for playing less than 10 games

This means you should be trying to pick a decent player who will put in the games, but not cash too much, this will give you the sweat when they go on a deep run.

The Defender
The 4 defenders have to be previous bracelet winners, and are therefore somewhat defending their title (tentative link for older bracelet winners, but meh) They are awarded points as follows;

• +1 for each game entered
• +1 for a cash
• +2 for a win

The Midfielder
The 4 midfielders should not be the star of the show, but more consistent, reliable cashers, they should have under $1,000,000 in live cashes on hendon mob, they score as follows;

1. +1 for each game entered
2. +10 for a min cash (first chunk of payouts)
3. +5 for a cash
4. +3 for a final table
5. +1 for a win

This should give another sweat once a player is in the money.

The Striker
The two big point scorers, you can chose any player for this category. They score as follows;

1. They get the total points earned by the defenders for a cash
2. They get the total points earned by the midfielders for a final table
3. They get (defender points x midfilder points) for a win
4. Should both strikers score points in the same event, the points are doubled (team work bonus)

Appears fairly complex, but really gives the team spirit to the event, the best strikers in the world score no points if you choose trash for your defence and midfield, and all the hard work can be undone by a poor choice of goal keeper! I appreaciate you might want to tweak it slightly, as I came up with this in a few minutes, but its pretty unique and should take things down to the wire. I havent thought about point modifiers for larger fields or bigger buyins, but we can discuss that :-)

Solid first poast ^!

How does one par take in this league? I can't find last years league on here can someone post a link so I can read up

This is the thread to watch.

Eventually there will be a way to submit your pics (by PM), and a way to send your money to escrow. I usually handle the latter (and don't participate).

Kl count me in, I'll keep an eye out.

Regardless of what AW comes up with for the "official" PokerCast contest, this whole football team concept is pretty cool.

My only fault with the keeper/negative sweat position: under your existing criteria, one could easily pick someone like Jerry Yang or Jamie Gold, and have no worries of the person earning deductions.

Hell, you could just pick someone who simply never plays or is no longer alive. I'll take Johnny Moss (who hits all three targets) and have no worries.

Edit: oh never mind... I get it now, you need someone who plays 10 or more events but doesn't go deep.

Edit #2: how will we know if the person enters 10 events? The WSOPDB no longer tracks that stuff.

BUMP

any updates or timelines with regards to this?

less than 60 days to go...

I literally have no idea how fantasy league would work in this scenario, but I'm happy to donate/ spin up some money

I've almost got something ready to share. Soon! Promise!

I think we have a system! I have a big google doc to create. I'll share it when ready, hopefully tonight.

If you need a hand let me know. I love a cheeky spreadsheet

So, we've decided to abandon the categories format this year and take a 'Fantasy Sports' approach.

Here are some early rules:

1) Each entry will have X amount of money to spend and will select their team with a salary cap.

2) AW is crunching the results of the last 3 WSOP POY races and will come with a weighted ranking to determine the salary value of the top players. The weighting will give more value to 2013 results, less for 2012 and even less for 2011.

3) The list of salaried players to select will be approximately 100-150 players in length

4) Salary cap amount will be determined first, followed by player salaries

5) Teams will consist of either 10 or 12 players max.

Undecided
1) Will multiple entries be permitted ?
2) Will each entry be required to take a minimum of one 'off the board' player(not on the published salary list of 100-150) to encourage variety of entries?
3) Will teams be able to name a bench player and make one swap/trade for a player of equal/less salary by a certain deadline i.e. one of their drafted players decides not to play the series (only points accumulated after the trade would be counted toward score)
If so, should this player have to be named as an alternate prior to the WSOP starting so as to not have information of other teams rosters to influence strategy.
4) Will a list of potential off-the-board players be published for players to consider or will this info be left up to the research of each individual player?
5) Will we use the WSOP POY scoring system or the DNegs $25K fantasy league scoring system?
6) Does each entry have to complete a full roster or will they be allowed to spend more on top players and submit a smaller roster?
7) Payout structure - top heavy or MTT structure

Any input to these questions, just quote this post and put replies under the questions. Gonna be fun!!!

Trouble is i think doing these salary cap things are actually quite complex but unless someone had the time etc ?

You could do pools of players or seeded players of which each team may only pick 3 within the categories listed above.

It would still take a lot of time to come of with pools of similar strength players and the problem with this format is there would be way too many teams with overlapping players. The salary cap format allows for the most combinations/variety of entries.

ideas:

1). Just let everyone pick whoever they want
2). Everyone picks whoever they want but gets double points for any unique pick they make
3). something else

OK, let's clarify this to save people from wasting time with posts. We are going with the Fantasy format with the salary cap. That's not up for debate.

If you have input on the questions posed in my post above regarding some of the yet to be determined details, feel free to provide input.

Suggesting completely different formats that will not be considered is a waste of everyone's time.