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View Poll Results: Comic Madness -- Round of 8 - AAA
George Carlin 63 70.00%
Mitch Hedberg 27 30.00%
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:33 PM   #1
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Comic Madness -- Round of 8 - AAA

Comic Madness -- Round of 8 - AAA
  • George Carlin
  • Mitch Hedberg

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Old 06-06-2012, 09:46 PM   #2
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Tough. I liked Hedberg more, but Carlin was better.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:07 PM   #3
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Tough. I liked Hedberg more, but Carlin was better.
+1, Carlin was def more revolutionary for his time, more groundbreaking, and tackled much tougher and more profound issues and actually provided a lot of societal commentary a la hicks. But Hedberg was awesome and executed his style of comedy to perfection, and still holds up extremely well, much better than Carlin.
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Glad to have at least one easy one in this round.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #5
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This is crazy tough!
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:52 AM   #6
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Re: Comic Madness -- Round of 8 - AAA

I opt not to vote as I find them equally hilarious. Voting for one feels kinda like dissing the other...
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:15 PM   #7
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Snap vote for Carlin. Not at all close.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:19 PM   #8
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Agree carlin.
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:27 PM   #9
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Carlin was great for his day, but that was back when people were dumb. Barely chuckle worthy if seen today. I do agree with everyone that said it's not even close, though.
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No Mitch Hedberg love? C'mon probably would be my #1 overall, but I guess his jokes really are only funny when he tells them with his stoned delivery
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Carlin was great for his day, but that was back when people were dumb.
Hmmm, the odd thing about this statement is that Carlin's "day" spans several decades and many different styles:

Mid-1960s to about 1971: Gentle, almost vaudeville-style comedy. I immediately think of the Hippy Dippy Weather Man although he probably had other popular characters. A little too Laugh-In for me, so this is the least-represented of his work in my collection.

Early 1970s: Seminal, First Amendment material. Most notably the "Seven Words You Can Never Say On Television" and its sequel, "Filthy Words." This was also a time when his material was more about his own life rather than general comedic riffing on everyday subjects. (Class Clown is almost all about his New York childhood.) I've often wondered if Bill Cosby inspired that -- Cos was perhaps the first major comedian to tell funny personal stories to great effect. Carlin's delivery was still relatively subdued even though his look had changed to match the counterculture vibe of the era.

Mid 1970s to early 1980s: Almost a hybrid between his early work, in that his act consisted of self-contained observations; and his Class Clown/Occupation: Foole era, in that he refused to comply with the buttoned-up tastes of old-school show business that still ran everything. I feel like this span was lighter on social commentary and heavier on broad and sometimes scatological subjects, which makes it a relatively meh period for me.

Mid 1980s to Mid 1990s: I call these the Grumpy Old Man years, even though he continued his manic stage presence for the rest of his life. One of the sets (I think it's Back In Town) has a long bit simply titled "Free-Floating Hostility." That might as well have been the name of every bit during this era. Some people don't like this kind of thing, but I got into Carlin, Hicks and Kinison when I hit my 20s so I think the rant-and-riff comedy caught me at the perfect age.

Late 1990s to Death: Similar in style to the previous set, the home stretch of his life combined the ranting of the earlier 90s with the crude/broad material of the mid-1970s but was marked with the socio-political acidity of the early 1970s. Again, this might all be about timing for me personally, but the classic "Why We Don't Need Ten Commandments" came about when I probably at my most cynical about religion, while the material about parenting from his final tour took place when my cohorts were in their peak child-rearing years.

The one real recurring theme throughout Carlin's career is his self-described fascination with our language and lexicon, certainly helped by his mother working in advertising all her life. All of the individual Carlin bits on my iPod have this in common:

"Seven Words You Can Never Say On Television" (1972)
"Shoot" (1972)
"Filthy Words" (1973)
"Baseball-Football" (several versions)
"Parents' Cliches And Children's Secret Answers" (1977)
"The Incomplete List Of Impolite Words" (1984)
"Offensive Language" (1990)
"Feminist Blowjob" (1990)
"Euphemisms" (1990) - now that we have a mass of GIs returning from the Middle East, the run on shell shock/battle fatigue/operational exhaustion/post-traumatic stress disorder has become very timely again.
"Airline Announcements" (1992)
"Free-Floating Hostility" (1996)
You Are All Diseased (the entire album/show) (1999)
"Why We Don't Need Ten Commandments" (2001)
"A Modern Man" (2006)

In fact, based on this particular body of work, I've long made the argument that no one had a better command of American English's nuances than George Carlin. He was a walking urban dictionary long before that ever became a website.
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^ Mad respect for Wilbury Twist.

Hugely impressive analysis both here and throughout the rest of the competition as well.

It may not fit in a poker-themed podcast, but if MJ and Adam were open to it, I'd certainly support and listen to your analysis of the competition on the show! It would be a lot of fun, imo.

Regardless, props to you!
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:32 AM   #13
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I voted for the dead guy.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:11 PM   #14
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Carlin here and the rest of the way.
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^ Mad respect for Wilbury Twist.

Hugely impressive analysis both here and throughout the rest of the competition as well.

It may not fit in a poker-themed podcast, but if MJ and Adam were open to it, I'd certainly support and listen to your analysis of the competition on the show! It would be a lot of fun, imo.

Regardless, props to you!
Haha thank you for those kind words. I'm actually not great for an overall analysis because there were several comedians of whom I had limited experience when it comes to their stand-up. (Dave Chappelle is a fine example. Love his show, have never seen his set.)

Carlin and Cosby happen to be the two who I know the best: I have most of their albums, seen all of their specials, been to a live show, etc. After those two, it's Rock, Pryor, Bruce, Seinfeld, Williams (though I'm not a huge fan of him anymore) and Lewis Black. I'm even a relative newb when it comes to Louie C.K. This thread just managed to fall into my comedy wheelhouse.
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