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Old 06-14-2008, 09:56 PM   #1
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A stranger is being shown around a village that he has just become part of. He is shown a well and his guide says "On any day except Saturday, you can shout any question down that well and you'll be told the answer" .

The man seems pretty impressed, and so he shouts down: Why not on Saturday? and the voice from in the well shouts back: Because on Saturday, it’s your day in the well.

this got requested by a couple people, so go ahead and ask me anything, i doubt theres gonna be anything i dont wanna answer, so whatever you wanna ask is cool
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:03 PM   #2
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If you were forced one hand to limp UTG every time you were dealt it there what hand would it be and why?
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:07 PM   #3
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Re: The Well: pattay

how much total from poker,
whats your estimation as tyou your current winrate at fr,6,HU at the limits you play and do you thyink you can improve it sig if you get better.

how old are you? how come we never talk? will you let me be a fanboy?
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:07 PM   #4
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If you were forced one hand to limp UTG every time you were dealt it there what hand would it be and why?
hmm i hate hate hate open limping, maybe something like 78s because i wouldnt mind throwing it away most of the time should anyone else bet/iso pre, and it can also be a good 4bet bluff hand because it isnt horrendous vs big pairs and such
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:08 PM   #5
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If you raise utg and get 4 callers iwth black qq live. and teh flop is 7h9hjh whats your plan if you chk and there is a decent bet and folded to you, and do youe ver cbet?
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:13 PM   #6
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how much total from poker,
whats your estimation as tyou your current winrate at fr,6,HU at the limits you play and do you thyink you can improve it sig if you get better.

how old are you? how come we never talk? will you let me be a fanboy?
1) between 100k and 200k

2) lol winrates are a funny thing for me. i have like, one of the worst ones in this forum, which kind of gets hidden because i can play a ****ton of tables for a ****ton of hours. my FR winrates are something like 1.5ptbb lifetime i think at 2/4 and 3/6, and probably a little under 1 at 5/10. i dont play much 6max, but i gather my winrate at 2/4 is about 1ptbb, and i dont have enough hands at any other limit to get a good grasp of my longtermwinrate there.
3) of course i think i can improve those significantly, because im a fairly intelligent person, and ive only been in this game seriously since about september of last year. whether that happens or not, im not sure because im not sure yet how poker fits into my long-term goals, and whether taking that time to get significantly better is something i want to do
4) im 20, 21 in august
5) not sure why we dont talk, but i dont really talk to many regular posters here outside of the forum very much, pm me your sn or move to philly or something
6) ANYONE can be a fanboy, i love attention
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:15 PM   #7
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If you raise utg and get 4 callers iwth black qq live. and teh flop is 7h9hjh whats your plan if you chk and there is a decent bet and folded to you, and do youe ver cbet?
my standard would be to c-bet so that i can get a better idea where i stand, ready to give up to aggression probably. as played definitely not fold yet, calling seems by far the best option
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:19 PM   #8
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How did you get into poker?
How long have you been playing?
A brief summary of moving up stakes (# hands at each limit/months/what sites, etc)
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1. Biggest pot won and lost
2. Longest/largest downswing and upswing
3. Stars reg you least like playing with
4. What makes you get up and play everyday (besides paying rent)
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:31 PM   #10
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How did you get into poker?
How long have you been playing?
A brief summary of moving up stakes (# hands at each limit/months/what sites, etc)
I got into poker through ESPN, and me and like 8 or 9 friends started playing like once a week for 5 dollar buyin games for a while. note that i had never watched a hand of poker until i did so with a couple friends (didnt have cable tv, or much interest to be honest). flash forward a couple months, and my one friend tells me theres a much better way to play internet poker than at yahoo games, and its pokerstars, and you can play FOR FREE! wahoo, and i was a play money specialist, and it probably looked sad from the outside but whatevs it was all for fun. eventually, my one friend got another kid who had a credit card to put 50 bucks on his account, of which i bought 20 dollars from, and i built that original roll to about $1600, of which 600 was from 5 and 10 dollar 9man sitngos, and about a grand was from a luckbox tourney score. the news spread like wildfire throughout school, and i started selling pokerstars money at 110% of the price to people in my highschool (i even sold about 200 dollars to my gym teacher) and i was seriously like a drug dealer with it, its pretty hilarious. i went bust a few times because a couple times i would go on tilt and cash out to 100 dollars, but ive never been in the red from poker in my life. so i guess ive been playing since sophomore year of high school (so over 4 years now), but i consider myself to have been playing poker seriously for less than a year. the rest of high school, and through all of freshman year of college, i played very sparingly, with no desire to get better because i was having fun and winning what i thought was good money.

i turned to cash games in late august of last year and i havent looked back since. i played like 150k hands of 100nl, and by like sept/oct i was at 200nl. i played basically breakeven poker (winrate of like 1.1ptbb) of probably like 300k hands before moving up on a whim in december of last year, when i had my best month ive ever had winning like 34k. ive been at midstakes ever since, and as of late ive hardly been playing 2/4, about 90-95 percent of my hands have been at 3/6 and 5/10. im not quite sure howmany midstakes hands ive logged, its probably in excess of 700k

ive played 99.9% of my hands at pokerstars
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:44 PM   #11
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3. Stars reg you least like playing with
4. What makes you get up and play everyday (besides paying rent)
1) not sure, i dont really keep track, but i remember winning a 3500 pot at 5/10 this week. ive probably lost a 2500 or 3000 pot at 5/10 as well

2) haha downswings. i swong more than like any other winning player ive ever heard of. ive had a $24,000 downswing, and no that is not a typo, it took me about 150k hands to do it lol. theres like no doubt i wasnt playing winning poker during that, but sheesh thats huge. largest upswing is recently, i won about $31,000 in like 21k hands

3) kelis wins the most so he sucks the game dry more than any other player, and hes the last player i wanna be deep and OOP with. but for 100bb, jahwe gives me ****ing fits, he plays me very well, along with gl79, he frustrates the hell outta me cause apparently i cant beat nits and hes a good nit. tsifknits i played shorthanded a little recently trying to start tables and he merked me, hes ****ing good. and at 2/4 too eazy is incredible and tough to play
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:53 PM   #12
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What do you think are the biggest differences/adjustments needed between various levels of FR?

Favorite non-premium hand?

Most difficult hand to play?
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:03 PM   #13
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What do you think are the biggest differences/adjustments needed between various levels of FR?

Favorite non-premium hand?

Most difficult hand to play?
hmm i guess the levels of aggression and the presence of regs. for example, i think 2/4 is where you really start to get a good amount of players that try to muscle you out of pots, whether it be semi-bluffing with draws more, 3betting lighter, or just firing more double and triple barrels as the PFR. as for the regs, i think 1/2 is the first level you get where you can expect to be with at least a few regs per table, and 2/4 is probably the first level where you cant really practice avoidance very well because theres just too many regs, and its the first level (in my opinion) where you have to learn to beat regs to make money. its really not as hard as it may seem, but like at .5/1 and 1/2 you really can never ever play back at regs and do just fine, but by 2/4 this just becomes very hard to do and make money.

probably 79 of spades because it looks so damn pretty

im torn between TT and AJ, both kinda suck to me
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:03 PM   #14
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Re: The Well: pattay

What do you think is the most common exploitable tendency regulars have?

How aggressive do you advocate being out of position in the blinds?
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:16 PM   #15
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What do you think is the most common exploitable tendency regulars have?

How aggressive do you advocate being out of position in the blinds?
this questions tough because "regulars" are so vastly different. MY most common exploitable tendency is calling too much when im pretty sure im beat, whether its because im curious or just because i tend to be a skeptic, so that might be the most common among regs too idk. related to that, a lot of times ill have, say, an overpair on a 789 board, c-bet, get raised OOP, call, c/c a blank turn, then c/f a river, calling all the way until the river, and needing a river bet to convince myself im beat. this type of play is horrendous and something i know i need to work on.

i basically think playing out of the blinds, its best to play as nitty as possible. a good amount of the hands you play should be 3bets, and i dont really do very much c/calling postflop out of the blinds. get that aggression factor up when playing in the blinds, and when you 3bet, you should be firing on a very large percentage of flops, and double barrelling a good amount too. one of the most important things i learned at midstakes is how unprofitable it can be to play most hands in the blinds because position is sososo important.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:27 PM   #16
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Re: The Well: pattay

You mentioned above 2 players who give you "fits" and you said that too eazy is "incredible and tough to play". - What is it about these opponents that gives you fits?, and what is it about too eazy that makes him incredible and tough to play?
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:32 PM   #17
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At what point in you're poker progression, did you begin to use PT, and were you a winning player before it?
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:35 PM   #18
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You mentioned above 2 players who give you "fits" and you said that too eazy is "incredible and tough to play". - What is it about these opponents that gives you fits?, and what is it about too eazy that makes him incredible and tough to play?
jahwe is just a solid player who hand reads me well and sees my bull**** bets as what they are more often than most other people. he's also good at giving me enough rope to hang myself in many situations, and combine that with the fact that hes probably coolered me more than the other way around, hes just a solid player

gl is just impossible to extract from it seems, and hes good at throwing in just enough bets/raises with crap that i tend to just believe him for the most part. just a good nit whos done well against me

and eazy is just a very intelligent player. hes a little more loose pre than most, so its tough to assign him a hand range post flop, but hes also a very good hand reader, and just solid overall. plus he kinda held my hand while i was moving up to midstakes so we have a little bit of metagame as well
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What was your bankroll management like as you jumped from NL100 to NL200 and beyond?

Whats your setup like...stack? cascade?

Are you a diligent note-takeer...if so how do you do it when playing so many tables (do you make notes during play, or if/when you review sessions in PT?)
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At what point in you're poker progression, did you begin to use PT, and were you a winning player before it?
ive always been a winning player because i am pretty disciplined with bankroll management. i started using pt a little after i moved up to 200nl, but i never played lower than 100nl, because i built a bankroll through sitngos. throughout my cash game progression pt has been in and out for me because i kept getting database problems and kept having trouble installing postgrsl, and i spent a very large percentage of my time at cash games without the use of it, including all of december and early january, when my winrate was the highest it ever was. i still dont use a HUD because i consider it a pain in the ass, and pt is more or less just an easy way for me to track how many hands ive played, money ive won, etc. i spend basically zero time analyzing stats in it, for example, i couldnt tell you what my W$WSF or c-bet percentage or even aggression factor i am, let alone any of my opponents.
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What was your bankroll management like as you jumped from NL100 to NL200 and beyond?

Whats your setup like...stack? cascade?

Are you a diligent note-takeer...if so how do you do it when playing so many tables (do you make notes during play, or if/when you review sessions in PT?)
bankroll management has never really been an issue cause i was usually overrolled for the limit i was at. i actually have no idea what my bankroll waswhen i switched to 200nl, but i would guess it was around 10,000 dollars. moving up past that was based on how i felt i was skill-wise compared to the average regs at that limit, and i cant think of one time where i moved down solely because my bankroll was too low.

my set-up is a 15inch laptop with 3 rows of 5 tables, and when i multitable more than 15 tables i just place the tables randomly throughout the screen.

not diligent at all, mostly because you really see the same people over and over at midstakes, and if you see an unknown i just basically pretend they suck and are a station. a lot of times i make a note on a guy that just says "sucks" or "bad" or "station" just so i know to target them.
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going out for the night, will be back tomorrow to answer more questions
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Do you like SobraoluckBoX just because he speaks spanish?
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:58 PM   #24
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1) post a pic of yourself (not of BIG)
2) in position, how often do you cbet? which flops? which cards? what is the best strategy?
3) pm me your aim if you want
4) do you play gutters and open-enders the same on the flop? if not, explain.
5) do you like me?
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