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02-02-2012 , 08:44 PM

jp1444

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 850

plays a 18/14

possible hands at this stage - AA,TT that we lose to
- AQdd,JQdd,JKdd

thoughts???

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11775122

SB: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $108.65 (108.7 bb)
UTG+1: $111.71 (111.7 bb)
UTG+2: $91.12 (91.1 bb)
MP1: $59.53 (59.5 bb)
MP2: $108.12 (108.1 bb)
MP3: $75 (75 bb)
CO: $152.76 (152.8 bb)
BTN: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

3 folds, MP2 raises to $3, 4 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $4.65, Hero calls $4.65

Turn: ($15.80) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $12, MP2 calls $12

River: ($39.80) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $25, MP2 raises to $88.47 and is all-in

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02-02-2012 , 09:27 PM

RivrMeaDream

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,604

minraise flop

call river

02-02-2012 , 09:28 PM

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

i dont think he would even value jam the nut flush here. fold

02-02-2012 , 11:10 PM

Ponder

veteran

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,341

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAW_FORCE

i dont think he would even value jam the nut flush here. fold

u sure?

02-02-2012 , 11:19 PM

ROM Amnesty

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,665

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponder

u sure?

lol. I'm with Ponder.

02-02-2012 , 11:19 PM

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

haha

owned

02-03-2012 , 03:12 AM

Big Jon 21

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 822

3bet pre? Or is calling pretty standard?

02-03-2012 , 03:20 AM

Deanglow

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,314

Gotta call because you played it like a weirdo

02-04-2012 , 11:34 AM

Renton

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,822

really don't think he expects you to fold.

c/r flop, check turn as played

02-04-2012 , 11:58 AM

#10

PokerRon247

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 11,192

If you're not c/raising this flop then what flops do you c/r?

02-04-2012 , 12:04 PM

#11

AbsoluteTilt

veteran

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not checkraising this flop either. not donking turn. probably donking river.

02-04-2012 , 12:40 PM

#12

AlexB182

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,338

turn donk is so weird in this spot...

02-04-2012 , 12:44 PM

#13

tobe4funas

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,661

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerRon247

If you're not c/raising this flop then what flops do you c/r?

what reasons do you have to raise this flop?

as for turn, seems a really good spot to donk for all the weirdness and misrep your hand imo

02-04-2012 , 12:59 PM

#14

isunkurbttlship

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 7,659

you have a set, opponent has an ace a decent amount of the time, ppl don't give c/r a ton of credit on T9tt boards

02-04-2012 , 01:49 PM

#15

tobe4funas

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,661

Quote:

Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship

you have a set, opponent has an ace a decent amount of the time, ppl don't give c/r a ton of credit on T9tt boards

how come i'd much rather give credit to a c/r on AT9 twotone board, then on 679 twotone? Am I doing something really wrong?

02-04-2012 , 02:12 PM

#16

Renton

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,822

Quote:

Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship

ppl don't give c/r a ton of credit on T9tt boards

don't really agree with this, AT9fd flop smashes a coldcall range

02-04-2012 , 03:05 PM

#17

isunkurbttlship

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 7,659

fair enough, but basically what i meant is that on a board with a flush draw and two connected cards a lot of ppl aren't folding to a single check raise and are hoping for a blank turn

02-04-2012 , 04:37 PM

#18

hurt

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don't like turn lead, i think it takes a lot of weak Ax out of your range.

02-04-2012 , 05:03 PM

#19

tobe4funas

Pooh-Bah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hurt

don't like turn lead, i think it takes a lot of weak Ax out of your range.

if he has some weak Ax is he really going to double barrel here when another 2nd card comes? If he won't be willing to barrel there, maybe he won't give any more value anyways, if he's willing to barrel again, then probably he won't fold to a donk either. How does this sound?

02-04-2012 , 05:05 PM

#20

hurt

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sounds wrong. i said it takes weak Ax out of hero's range, not villain's.

02-04-2012 , 05:07 PM

#21

AlexB182

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tobe4funas

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurt

sounds wrong. i said it takes weak Ax out of hero's range, not villain's.

so funny.

02-04-2012 , 05:25 PM

#22

tobe4funas

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,661

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB182

so funny.

nothing unexpected

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