to Squeeze or not to squeeze
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 286
I have a question about a general concept/spot that comes up a lot and in which I'm not sure is the best approach to play it.
here's an example:
-assume all effective stacks are 100bbs
-a pretty tight player who folds to 3bets lets say 65%, raises from UTG+1
-I'm on the button with AKo or maybe TT-QQ
-my standard play here would be to just call, for obvious reasons
-however let's suppose that 2-4 players, a few of which are decently loose pf, call in between.
-should this make me want to squeeze with these hands more instead of flatting, to thin the field and isolate some weaker opponents?.
-it's a tough spot for me, because there is still the original raiser to think about, who will have a pretty tight range, but I feel like just calling behind all these players with a hand like AKo(which doesn't necessarilly play too well in multiway pots), is wasting some value.
-what about if I was out of position with the same hands?
-should I be even more willing to put in a 3bet oop?
another example
-I'm in the BB with TT
-mid pos loose fish open limps, HJ loose fish open limps, solid reg raises in CO
-raiser folds to 3bets 60%
-again here if there weren't limpers in the pot I would often just flat TT from the BB, because raising would force worse hands to fold, and opp would prolly only continue with hands that beat me or will be able to play well against me in pos.
-but with these limpers I feel like if just call, then they will call too, and I will have a tough winning the pot 4 way oop with a mid/high pair.
-should I be 3betting more often to force the limpers out, or do I wan't to keep them in to increase my implied odds?
any info on these topics would be greatly appreciated!
thanks a lot
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,659
3b Hand 1, call Hand 2. You don't really want to keep them in necessarily to increase your implied odds, it's just that you will make more money playing with fish in the hand with weak ranges as opposed to vs a reg with a strong range (his continuation range if you 3b)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 259
Hand 1: Call with TT and JJ, 3b the rest
please make the hands more structured, i.e. numbered, it's a little hard to respond otherwise.
Join Date: Mar 2010
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My hand 1 was just referring to AK btw, agree with flatting TT-JJ most of the time, but depends if the loose players are regs or fish (if fish I usually 3b to iso)
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 286
thanks a lot for the responses guys..definately cleared some things up for me
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Call with both hands, except AKo in hand 1 where you should 3bet.
Not sure why you care about winning the pot in hand 2 with an unimproved TT OOP. Just think of the ridiculous amount of implied odds you have if you hit your set and you are going to be set over set in your favour so much more often.
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Can't read that wall or writing my eyes are burning