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Old 05-27-2012, 03:11 PM   #1
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Heart Theory: 3-betting EP opens

Got into an argument w/ my brother about this. Interested in getting some other opinions from good players.

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Standardish 16/12 - 18/14 reg opens from one of the first 3 positions. Let's say his fold to 3-bet is like 60-65% w/ no crazy positional anomalies. He views us about the same. It folds to us in the blinds.

In general, how do you approach constructing a 3b range in these kinds of spots? Could having no 3b range at all be a reasonable strategy?
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:23 PM   #2
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

lots of suited connectors
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:58 PM   #3
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

That was my first thought: really polarized w/ a lot of the best suited connectors.

What about the value portion of your range? Not that balance is super important at NL100, but what kind of value/air ratio would you think is close to optimal? (once again just talking in generalities obv)
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:32 PM   #5
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

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Old 05-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #6
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

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Probably belongs in the theory forum, but I would think that having blockers might be more helpful than building a pot oop with sc's or anything really. I'm curious to hear why you want to construct a blind 3b range against ep opens.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:07 AM   #7
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

Well our argument was over whether or not having no 3b range at all was that bad.

I was also just curious what an average reg's 3b range generally looks like in this spot and/or how it would be perceived if we 3b. (I come from a 6-max/HU background FWIW...so I'm still learning what FR ranges look like)
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:00 AM   #8
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

i like doing it with 22-77 as well since its bad to call and bad to fold with great odds
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

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Old 05-28-2012, 03:10 AM   #10
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

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Old 05-28-2012, 03:52 PM   #11
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

Never 3B a good player from EP.

Profit.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:31 PM   #12
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

entirely opponent dependent:

chinese or russian (full stacker): 3bet value
chinese or russian (shortstacker): 3bet bluff w/ any blockers
british: 3bet bluff w/ sooted ax/kx/connectors
canadian: too balanced to 3bet
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:35 PM   #13
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

if they are spanish 3bet small to induce the 4bet bluff then proceed to min 5bet.
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:06 PM   #14
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

3 bet ur entire range imo.
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:42 PM   #15
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Re: Theory: 3-betting EP opens

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chinese or russian (full stacker): 3bet value
chinese or russian (shortstacker): 3bet bluff w/ any blockers
british: 3bet bluff w/ sooted ax/kx/connectors
canadian: too balanced to 3bet
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