The weak/bad regs are very important to PokerStars, so PokerStars needs to ensure that poker is still a profitable endeavour for those particular regs, whoever they may be.

Can someone please post a link to the page where I can select to hide Pokie's posts? (Serious question- I couldn't see it.)

view public profile >>> click user list drop down box below his name >>> select add to ignore >>> remove gun from mouth

Man, that felt good.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/pr...gnore&u=378975

Is this real life?

This whole discussion began when Pokie asked about scripting, after which Melea gave some (but not all) of the information he had about possible new systems, and invited questions and discussion.

Questions and discussion ensued...with a lot of reasonable questions being asked by Pokie (as agreed by Tonna, PlasticElephant, etc). But Pokie immediately gets completely shat on for his wild speculation, while Melea slowly reveals additional information about why Pokie is wrong, idiotic, or worse.

So then we improve things by starting a new thread called "discussion thread", where we go ahead and reconfirm what Melea apparently knew all along about the SSFR viewpoint anyway, by getting those who fit the right profile to post while continuing to **** on anybody who has a differing opinion, regardless of why they might offer some insight into where this could lead.

I'm assuming I'll get dumped on just for posting this. But wtf was the point of all this anyway if concerns weren't supposed to be brought up? Pokie may have a history of being a pest, but he, MMD and the like aren't trolling here...they're getting screwed in this conversation.

Uh, ok.

I love you!

This is so correct!

MeleaB and a few others really don't like to treat people like equals, and their attitude is shocking at times. They just have this rude/angry/annoyed/arrogant/negative/irritated vibe attached to a lot of what they say, and they don't come across like fun, chilled out guys in the slightest, at least judging by the tone of a lot of their posts. They seem reasonably intelligent sure, but they take everything including themselves, way too seriously.

Learn to have fun peeps, there's more to life than poker! :-D

Maybe get your mum to read over it for you, because your summary is well wide of the mark. Previous posts of mine have already summarized parts if want to read them.

Csb

Pretty much.

What we have here is a bunch of stars regs who all hang out together, skype group chat together and Melea aside, (who said he wants to be a breakeven reg) all have scripts and are trying to keep things the way they are because if scripts get taken away their winrates will go down. They're trying to force the illusion that things are fine for selfish reasons only.

I'm going to pm Stars chris this thread because I doubt it will be sent to him like we were told it would as it didn't turn out like the circle jerk the guys had hoped for.

I'm confused. This is thread is just for extra discussion. There is nothing stopping people writing in the other thread saying they wish scripts were removed. I was one of a number of people that said something needed to be done.

Just because more people posting in that thread may have a script (ergo more incentive to keep the status quo) doesn't mean there is some weird circle jerk going on or some conspiracy theory to keep "the man" down. It's a a very small population sample so stuff like this is expected. Tbh this whole survey and discussion is probably pretty pointless in the scheme of things anyway, so I wouldn't bother getting too worked up about it.

And people say the R problem is fixed?

Yes, it used to be a non-ending loop

That doesn't look fixed to me. It's an improvement but its certainly not fixed.

what the **** do you expect? there is seats you can take at the table, go ahead, take them.
before you couldnt and noone could. KOTH format stopped anyone from starting tables after the loop started. now the loop dies, cause of limitations. and even before there is always a seat avail.

i think at this point your judgement might be a little clouded about the loop thing

I expect the problem to be fixed by solving the problem of scripts once and for all. Not this half measure which makes things slightly better but doesn't address the fact that scripts need to be stopped.

I don't know why you think my judgement is clouded. I've experienced it before and after and I've already agreed with you that it's an improvement.

I don't think you properly understood the "R problem" if you think it is not fixed now.

100nl FR was barely even effected before the fix anyway.

Do i need to post the video i made again?

Seriously, stars said that their "R" solution was just a piece of incremental improvement. That at the time it helped reduce the R problem at the tables but that they still wanted to stop the effectiveness of scripts. I'm really struggling to understand the complaint here.

If it was an easy fix, it made sense to sort out the R looping before tackling the rest of the scripting problem.

The push for changes are coming from 400nl+ 6max players, because scripting is a big problem at midstakes and highstakes.

Do you honestly believe its SSNL- regs pushing for lobby changes? As I said, most SSNL- regs are probably not even aware that big changes are in the works. Scripting, AFAIK (I don't play peak hours), is not a big issue at SSNL-, because there's more fish and plenty of tables.

If scripting is a non-issue at SSNL-, why on earth would regs support lobby changes which remove their freedom to table select?

MSNL+ NLHE takes the most money out of the poker economy than all other games. It's ridiculous for Pokerstars to prioritize the requests of their least valuable customers. Changes at midstakes should stay exclusively at midstakes or not be implemented at all.

U realize that with a global waitlist ALL seats would be R's at teh exact moment u took teh pic probably for like 5 minutes until/unless a rec sits??!!!

All arguments u make are not only ******ed but flat out wrong. At tis point u really passed pokie in teh moast obnoxious poaster department (which is really really hard to do). If i didnt know any better ud really be an a+ troll.

Teh sense of entitlement u bring with u makes me siq. Never played any amount of hands on stars but obv u know moar than all teh regs who r around for years logging 100k+ hands a month.

Would be teh same like me going to 888 thread and demanding teh ban of scripts and throwing eggs.
Hey, i never played there but teh 10k hands per month i might grind if teh status quo changes makes moar than up for it than teh other regs who say being able to throw eggs at ur opponent is completely fine...

Ps: if u want pm me ur screenname bc u r a guy i really wanna give 120% against instead of 100 until u go back to where u came from


Suckaaaaaa!

edit: i'm not getting into a **** throwing contest with you as it's quite clear that you are against every change that threatens your precious script.

MMD, while Tim (and others) might have his (their) motives, which doesn't mean he (they) can't be right.
I am the fastest scripter in the pool right now, yet 3/4 of my volume comes from tables that I joined from waitlists. I play 200+ (with the occasional 100EUR at euro daytime, when there is only 12 tables running higher, and not because games are not good)
so if you are trying to tell me that you can't get on enough good tables at 100, there is probably something really wrong with you

as for the R loop. it got fixed. you clearly are not a stars reg, so don't know what the situation was before.
from what I gather from your posts, you want stars to reserve a jesus seat for you every time you are online, cause if you see more than one R at the table it means its broken and crap.
there is scripters and non scripters on both side of the argument, but we have that in common that we play on stars, so changes matter to us

just cause I am scripting that doesn't mean I can't be right about some stuff, or that my only motive is my script and not logic

as for alterior motives and dishonesty, I can see why you haven't posted your screenname in the survey, as it would very strongly suggest that you don't play on stars.

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TonnaMunz EDIT:
Common man, the arguing is chilled but u can't be posting that screenshot, you know better then that

and yes if scripts are to go away, i am ok with it, have the fastest finger in the land.
but global waitlist is something that sounds just plain bad to me

lol how wrong you are. One second and I'll jump on my pc and screenshot my stars results from this week.

I sincerely hope you're not making a fool of yourself by mud flinging at other people on the back of these inaccurate sites you have paid for lol

You can show my screename. If you had any level of intellect at all you'd just look at my past threads where it's been posted multiple times and lots of SSFR know it as they've settled up the volume pools I did all of last year.

Wake up mate eh?

i have not paid for them.

yet again that's the only part you care to address. well done. im done