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plez read this and help me out plez read this and help me out

08-12-2014 , 07:11 PM
i posted this as well on small stakes nl but got no response.

i used to play full ring b4 black friday and realized via pt3 that my only long term winning hands from ALL positions were AK and AA through i think TT.

i asked someone about it and they said sadly that is about right. everything else just kind of helps tread water.

So i assume this to be acurate and does anyone have a HEM or PT spreadsheet indicating such.

thx, nobody posted on the other thread.

if this is actually acurate i think its pretty darned important to understanding the game
08-12-2014 , 07:29 PM
That person you talked to has no idea wtf they're talking about. Yes there are hands that can be -ev and you can open but generally if you're opening a hand that you know is going to be -ev to do so...you don't open it. My AQo for example is breakeven from ep (winning elsewhere) but AQs/AJs/KQs/some suited connectors are huge winners from all positions.

It may be correct that counting the losses in the blinds that TT+/AK make up the majority of your profits which I think is where that person got confused.

Last edited by .isolated; 08-12-2014 at 07:35 PM.
08-12-2014 , 08:38 PM
08-12-2014 , 08:58 PM
My only winning hands are aa and kk but i win moar with those 2 than all others lose combined so that i dont care too much!
08-13-2014 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
My only winning hands are aa and kk but i win moar with those 2 than all others lose combined so that i dont care too much!
+1
08-15-2014 , 04:38 PM
rosh thx for taking the time to post the graph. but i honestly have no idea what it means. not complaining, it just doesnt anwer what im tryin to figure out. unless im not reading it right.

tim stone and angeles, im truly not trying to be a jerk, im trying to learn.... so ur winning hands are really only AA and KK. i thought the range of winning hands was tight but not that tight.

once again i mean no disrespect, truly but i am shocked by that. i was shocked that for most people mid pocket pairs were losers depending on how u play em.

anyway thx again, i just remember playin on stars and lookin at pokertracker and my only winning hands were like JJ-AA and AK. i was like wtf that cant be right, when i had multiple people tell me yeah thats about right.

thx
08-15-2014 , 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by x_ROSH125_x
hem?
08-15-2014 , 09:17 PM
This is an excellent question and something I have been studying in detail the past month or so.

Below is a summary of my findings:

Spoiler:


I wouldn't recommend having sex whilst playing, but if you have your heart set on it then nothing I say will change your mind. With each of these positions I saw a profit from TT+, AK+. I noticed very little difference between them performance-wise. However, the one second from right on the bottom hurt my back a little and also gave me a rush of blood to the head, so I think I may have experienced a dip in form there. Also it was hard to see the screen properly upside-down.
08-15-2014 , 11:09 PM
booooooo meleab

plus i thought u were gonna be that dude mpethybridge and have something interesting to say. well i mean sex is interesting, but i dont come here for sex
08-17-2014 , 05:59 PM
Poker is like sex. If your stack isn't big enough no one really notices when you go all-in. Hope this helps

      
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