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07-16-2008 , 10:51 AM
Ah okay, I didn't realise there were different graphs (I just found out about the ev ones) and thought there was something wrong with my graph because everybody else's red line was going up instead of breaking even. This is 400NL, I posted it here because there is no graph thread in the mid stakes forum.
07-16-2008 , 07:15 PM
Any comments appreciated.

I know it's a small sample but these are the only recent hands I have.

Thanks.

07-18-2008 , 03:28 PM
Hello every one,

on january i started NL10 on ongame network, playing full ring
I'm climbing limits (i am waiting to have 20 buy in of the upper limit to go up)

i have reached 2000 dolls, so i will begin to play in NL 100 FR

i need your good advices to analyse my play, my level, good points, bad points, what do you think of my game and how to improve it

i give you stats from pokeroffice but i can give you extra one if you need

to beat NL50 (from 1000 doll to 2000 dol) i took me
15796 hand, playing 14.4 / 7 / 2.2 (agression factor total postflop) and i am at 8.32 BB/100 hands

thank you its because of this for forum and harringotn on cash game than i am winning because the posts are allways intersting

sorry for my english

Stats are only for my NL50 play
,

overview



hand analyse

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position



profit

07-19-2008 , 01:51 AM
Took a 30second look.

Steal way more, loosen up from button and CO alot(mainly on raise first in%) EP looks fine.

Get Pokertracker, PO sux, PT3 should have hud for ongame within a week.
07-19-2008 , 03:52 AM
craiggerz,
your flop AF is a little low compared to most winners... this is partly due to your cbet flop being a little low compared to most winners

however, you are winning, so it might just work for you
07-19-2008 , 12:18 PM
thank you for you answer

nothing else to change? just more raise when first in, when Button or CUt off?

why Po sucks versus PT3 or PH?

thanks
07-19-2008 , 01:26 PM
Because compared with PT/HEM, PO is much more slower (importing hands/retrieving data), less filters and options to sort your hands. Also PT/HEM have better HUD and more stats on you and your opponents.
07-19-2008 , 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
craiggerz,
your flop AF is a little low compared to most winners... this is partly due to your cbet flop being a little low compared to most winners

however, you are winning, so it might just work for you
What is an average or good flop cbet number? I'm guessing between 60-70%?

Thanks for the response.
07-19-2008 , 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by craiggerz
What is an average or good flop cbet number? I'm guessing between 60-70%?

Thanks for the response.
yeah... most of the top players at 100NL in my database have a cbet that is near 67% and a flop AF that is 4.0 and up
not huge differences, but it might just be the slight uptick you want in your game
then again, it might not work within the overall game you play... just something I noticed
07-21-2008 , 07:53 AM
Hey guys, just a quick checkup on my 100NL game.

With my fold BB to steal its 85%. In order to defend vs steals should i be cold calling more or 3bing?

I havent quite worked out how to use HEM properly yet so its just an assortment of stats lol




07-21-2008 , 11:34 AM
Location: Buttonbashville with ATS at 51% theres no doubt thats where ur at.
Cant say iv seen that higher % on a big winner b4. What site do u play at?

85% fold BB to steal is standard dont think u can loosen up much more than that 3betting or not. I dont think those stats show ur 3bet from BB vs steal% but its so opponent dependant anyway. Vs sum1 stealing 51% yes 3bet more.

All your stats tell me is that u need to add more tables if u havnt and move up soon
07-21-2008 , 11:50 AM
I lurk a lot but recently I switched from s&gos to cash, I'm trying NL200 but I get tested a lot more. I need some advice, I get 3bet'd very often and ppl calls a lot my Cbets lol

Comments and thoughts plz


07-21-2008 , 02:02 PM
nothing more to say on my stats (the page before) ? such a pity to me i though 2+2 would analyse deep my game....
have a nice day
07-21-2008 , 11:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rohan68
nothing more to say on my stats (the page before) ? such a pity to me i though 2+2 would analyse deep my game....
have a nice day

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/fo...play.php?f=101 try these guys or just post hands for more discussion.

But as i said your EP MP game seems quite solid but as u move up more and more profit has to come from stealing as games get tighter and less players will pay off.
07-22-2008 , 04:16 AM
ok tank you kill time i was jsut suprised because i don t think i a m a godd player and no one seems to find big mistakes in my game in this forum with so many good players

thanks and have a nice days
07-25-2008 , 08:31 PM
yo whats the BR rule for FR cash games?
07-25-2008 , 10:46 PM
It depends
-recreational player whatevva u can afford to lose
-semi-rec player 10 buy-ins
-playing for a second income 20if ur prepared to move down 30+ otherwise
-full-time pro no other income 50minimum if u can afford to move down 100 to be safe
07-29-2008 , 01:30 PM


Thoughts? My AF seems fairly low to most people, dunno whether it matters.
07-29-2008 , 03:51 PM
Having issues exporting my stats so i'll just type the out (bah). The info is from NL200 with about 4k hands at NL400. Just began playing online about 2 months ago and have obv been running good. If anything stands out as being bad, comments would be appreciated.

VPIP: 15.11
Pfr: 10.50
W$WSF: 39.80
WTSD: 25.96
W$SD: 52.43
3Bet: 5.13
Fold3B: 75.23
ATT to Steal: 27.67
CBet F: 57.40
Fold BB to Steal: 83.56
Fold F CB: 54.59
AF: 2.54
Flop AF: 3.00
Turn AF: 2.02
River AF: 2.20




EDIT** Also, my money won in non showdown hands has been slightly and consistantly higher than my money won at showdown. Most of the SSNL players I know have graphs that are the exact opposite. I know that I get a bit spewy post flop, but is this overly weird?

Last edited by Ricky1231; 07-29-2008 at 03:58 PM.
08-11-2008 , 06:54 PM


23k hands. im not doing it right, help,.
08-12-2008 , 02:07 PM
Hello everyone,

I am new and I am hoping that you can help me? I have chosen players at this level as I assume you all have experience at 50NL?

Please let me know what you think the strengths and weaknesses of this player are ??? ( also are there any considerations when playing this person )

This is 50NL Full ring
This is over 1500 "normal" hands

pre flop raise = circa 9%
First In raise = circa 5%
Saw flop % = circa 15%
Vol Put in pot = circa 13.5%
aggressive factor preflop = 1.8%
Aggressive factor Post flop = 2.4%
aggresive factor total = 1.9%
Went to Showdown = circa 4%

any help will be really greatly appreciated....
08-12-2008 , 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bengiec


23k hands. im not doing it right, help,.
these stats look pretty awesome, dunno, maybe your just having a bad run
08-12-2008 , 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coordi
these stats look pretty awesome, dunno, maybe your just having a bad run
U stole my words.
08-13-2008 , 07:29 PM
What do you think of this? Is this running bad or playing bad or wtf?





Stats for NL/PL100. What more can I do?





And position stats..




Would like to get coments on all three.

Thanks in advance!
08-13-2008 , 07:53 PM
play pl exclusively

      
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