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Is having a declining blue line exploitable in the long run? I've never had this before can someone explain why I might be having a declining blue line? Thanks in advance. This is a mix of $1/2 and $2/4

07-31-2011 , 06:31 AM

#853

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

...you bluff a lot? your winrate seems ok and the green line is all that matters

08-02-2011 , 07:38 PM

#854

loco

The First Golden

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14,846

Quote:

Originally Posted by zedveron

i'm trying to switch from MTTs to cash games and failing pretty miserably so far. this is my first few K hands at 50nl FR on stars. what am i doing wrong? is it too small a sample size too soon to matter? am i playing too many hands? any advice much appreciated.

This is pretty good for a rookie. Just keep playing. And stop calling rivers like a monkey and don't fold as much from the blinds.

08-12-2011 , 09:09 PM

#855

vmarqui

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 132

nl50/100 @ pokerstars

08-13-2011 , 01:52 AM

#856

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

you want us to analyze the fact that you are the best small stakes player alive?

08-13-2011 , 04:49 AM

#857

xdannyx

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18

I've just moved over from SNG and MTT to playing cash games
Here are the stats from my first 20k hands fullring

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

What's the problem with my game?

Cheers

Last edited by xdannyx; 08-13-2011 at 04:54 AM. Reason: problems putting pic

08-13-2011 , 05:03 AM

#858

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

it looks like you are being too passive postflop. you'll want to get your w$wsf to the low 40s. its likely you're running bad too since i would expect someone with your stats to have a w$sd in the low or mid 50s

08-13-2011 , 07:18 AM

#859

xdannyx

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18

where do you think I'm being passive? Do I check too much the river instead of betting? Is my flop cbet % ok or should i cbet more?

08-13-2011 , 11:33 AM

#860

loco

The First Golden

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14,846

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAW_FORCE

you want us to analyze the fact that you are the best small stakes player alive?

That's a good one. When I was looking at the same guy, I was like "WTF, this guy is better than me."

Those guys are pretty annoying. They have like 15 bb/100 winrates and post their stats to drive us on full blown monkey tilt. There was a guy that was infamous for doing it nonstop. He would post all the time about his losses out of the bb being -29 bb/100 and if this was acceptable and how to improve on that. He did like 3 or 4 times in one year. I forgot his SN, but I verified that he indeed was a stud (his overall winrate was 9 bb/100). So annoying.

08-13-2011 , 01:07 PM

#861

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdannyx

where do you think I'm being passive? Do I check too much the river instead of betting? Is my flop cbet % ok or should i cbet more?

its really hard to say anything definitive with such a small sample of hands but the answer is probably yes to both. i don't have a problem with your flop cbet% (mine is only slightly higher) but your checks are likely super unbalanced and weighted towards air that you want to c/f and some of those air hands would have been profitable cbets

08-13-2011 , 02:17 PM

#862

vmarqui

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by loco

hehe not really, i really think that i can still improve my game. but thanks

08-13-2011 , 04:11 PM

#863

SA16

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 6,972

danny

-I think your turn and river aggression are both really low...you can definitely cbet more but it's not like you have to but given your lower flop cbet I'd prob expect a higher turn cbet...maybe not betting rivers thin enough also?

08-13-2011 , 04:35 PM

#864

DiscoBisco

banned

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,701

something doesn't compute about vmarqui's popup. how can he be winning at almost 7BB/100 over 200k hands at 50 and 100NL and only be up 6000$

i call shenanigans

08-13-2011 , 04:44 PM

#865

vmarqui

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 132

like 130k of those hands are from nl50, the rest is from nl100. too lazy to do the math or check it up on HM

08-13-2011 , 06:36 PM

#866

Cangurino

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,476

7BB/100 over 200k is 280 BI, or $14k at NL50.

Edit: His data gives an average buy-in of $22.76.

08-13-2011 , 06:46 PM

#867

Jah Onion

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10,955

so < 25NL.

2p2 has the best detectives I swear

08-13-2011 , 07:12 PM

#868

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

you guys dont know him, maybe he took a drunken shot at 50/100 and got smacked

08-13-2011 , 07:30 PM

#869

vmarqui

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 132

they're actually nl10-nl25 stats apparently, must have done something wrong. anyway i beated nl50 for 10bb/100 and i'm now beating nl100 at 5-6bb/100, but who cares about that anyway lol.

i'll post nl100 stats in a while.

Last edited by vmarqui; 08-13-2011 at 07:39 PM.

08-16-2011 , 04:07 PM

#870

Xela

veteran

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,163

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmarqui

i'll post nl100 stats in a while.

Why?

08-16-2011 , 07:25 PM

#871

Jah Onion

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when you start lying it's hard to stop

08-17-2011 , 02:43 AM

#872

vmarqui

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah Onion

when you start lying it's hard to stop

**** off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xela

Why?

To fix my leaks. or to hear some thoughts maybe.
There you go

08-17-2011 , 04:58 AM

#873

Jah Onion

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08-17-2011 , 08:00 AM

#874

riksanchez

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,060

Quote:

Originally Posted by SA16

4. Your fold to 3bet MIGHT be too high or not...81% is ridiculous high on HEM but I'm not sure about how it translates to the different pt3 stat...you would have to speak to someone who uses pt3 about that

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpethybridge

81% on PT3 actually indicates he might be calling too many 3 bets...

I just downloaded PT3 to use with my macbook, I've only really used HEM before. Can someone please explain why they would produce such different numbers for the Fold to 3b stat?

08-17-2011 , 08:13 AM

#875

Cangurino

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HEM count only the times you open and then fold to a 3bet. By default PT3 also counts when you fold without having opened first (although the other stat is available as well).

Edit: The following definition should work.

Code:

(cnt_p_3bet_def_action_fold_when_open_raised / cnt_p_3bet_def_opp_when_open_raised) * 100

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