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Originally Posted by SA16
lebowski
4. Your fold to 3bet MIGHT be too high or not...81% is ridiculous high on HEM but I'm not sure about how it translates to the different pt3 stat...you would have to speak to someone who uses pt3 about that
I recently had a database analysis session with mpethy (which i can recommend btw), and we touched on this subject.
In PT3 the fold to 3bet stat seems to include all the times you are sitting there having taken no action yet, and there is a raise and a reraise in front of you. It is unsurprising you are going to be folding a lot in that spot, which skews the PT3 stat to the high side, and makes the stat almost meaningless in practical terms when you want to know how someone reacts when
their raise is 3bet.
To get round this I created my own stats, which measures folds/calls/4bets
only when the player in question is the opener. i also divided the stats into 1; opens from steal position and 2; opens from anywhere else
From my own database over the last 114000 hands, my PT3 'fold to 3bet' of 76% translates to ;
fold to 3b when opened from a steal position; 49.7%
fold to 3b when opened from a non steal position; 35.5%
(i didnt say these stats were good, just what they are)
for everyone in my db with >=1000 hands, the stats average;
PT3 'fold to 3bet''; 79.7%
fold to 3b when opened from a steal position; 59.1%%
fold to 3b when opened from a non steal position; 47.7%
conclusion; i should def fold more
Last edited by village kid; 04-12-2011 at 01:19 AM.
Reason: just tidying it up a bit if thats ok