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11-12-2010 , 10:21 AM
stickies imo.
11-12-2010 , 10:56 AM
Go to PTR, look yourself up and see what they have to say about your stats. They presumably do some comparison of your stats vs the winning norm. HOWEVER, you will find that stats are not that important in determining profitability (assuming you don't play 5/2 or 40/30). There are plenty of losers with "ideal stats".
11-12-2010 , 11:37 AM
Mintberry CRUUNNCHH!!!!
11-12-2010 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleFly
Go to PTR, look yourself up and see what they have to say about your stats. They presumably do some comparison of your stats vs the winning norm. HOWEVER, you will find that stats are not that important in determining profitability (assuming you don't play 5/2 or 40/30). There are plenty of losers with "ideal stats".
With all the respect to PTR they are sp far from my holdem manager and they have tons of mistakes,

I would just like to see a chart with the optimal ranges wich i didnt see here yet...

See if you guys can help please, tables above seems not good, vpip 11? come on
11-12-2010 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nimi
With all the respect to PTR they are sp far from my holdem manager and they have tons of mistakes,

I would just like to see a chart with the optimal ranges wich i didnt see here yet...

See if you guys can help please, tables above seems not good, vpip 11? come on
say what?
11-14-2010 , 09:12 PM
Hello guys,

Tried my luck at 1/2 and so far not doing very well. I am looking for obvious stats error. I'm have a tag playing style.

Thanks,

11-17-2010 , 11:29 AM
blind loss rates appear tremendous
11-17-2010 , 12:33 PM
Your vpip-pfr gap is much too small to be successful. It should be something in low double digits like idk maybe 12? 22/10 should do the trick.
12-04-2010 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chargers In 08
Just curious, why can't I follow that link? Sorry for OT, but I didn't know where else to ask this since it was like the 5th post on this thread.
12-30-2010 , 11:24 AM
Hello everyone, been visiting the forum for a while now but just decided to join today. I've been playing NL50 for a while now and over 100k hands I only have a winrate that hovers around 1BB/100, for majority of this I was 11 or more tabling which probably killed my rate a bit but since have backed it down to 6-8 tables over the month of December. I'm curious what a good and attainable rate would be at this stake these days, I see people saying 5BB/100 and higher is quite doable over a significant sample but I'm just not seeing it. However, most of these posts were from back in '08 or before where games were quite a bit softer. On the other hand I've been running pretty garbadgy over the past 100k so it could be a problem that just fixes itself over more volume. I generally swing back and forth 5+ buyins every other day, its been a while since I've gone on a win streak, getting very frustrating. Sorry for the wall of text but here are some screenshots (crappy shots, my first time) hopefully you guys can identify some leaks in my game and tell me why I suck so bad.

Thanks


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12-30-2010 , 07:04 PM
Call (limp?) less often pre
steal more
post more stats relating to post flop play
12-30-2010 , 08:04 PM
What other post flop stats should I post and where do I find them?
01-01-2011 , 07:10 PM
Hey guys I have a friendly bet with 1 of my buddies that a avg reg should have atleast 1 bb avg winrate above whatever there pokerstars winrate is.Does anyone know where I can find some info on this to back this up, or someone that plays on both sites so I can see a effiecient sample over 200k hands. Thanks in advance . Happy Newyears. Links would be great
01-10-2011 , 05:48 PM
I haven't thought about this too much yet, because I am not sure where I should start analyzing my play with these filters. The filters I have on are: 100nl rush, this month (about 60k hands), and 3b pf. On my regular graph, my green line runs around the yellow line. I am not wrong in thinking that should be the case here too, right? Standard variance, or should I ignore the yellow line altogether?

01-10-2011 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dbdbdb
I haven't thought about this too much yet, because I am not sure where I should start analyzing my play with these filters. The filters I have on are: 100nl rush, this month (about 60k hands), and 3b pf. On my regular graph, my green line runs around the yellow line. I am not wrong in thinking that should be the case here too, right? Standard variance, or should I ignore the yellow line altogether?

Here are full stats for the month so far. Yellow line is at 0 on my graph. =\ Any input appreciated. Would be especially interested in recommendations for what sort of coaching would best suit me.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4...10posstats.jpg
01-12-2011 , 11:30 PM
Help!

Just downloaded new update for HEM and all of my HUD displays have reset to 0/0. How do i reset my HUD displays to include all of my imported HH's?
01-15-2011 , 11:18 AM
Help me plug leaks! Can't seem to turn a profit

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01-15-2011 , 05:08 PM
i think youre pot controlling too much
01-15-2011 , 06:13 PM
Low Flop C-bet%? What percentage of my flop c-bet should I continue double barrelling on the turn and river without being exploited to floats? Like if say I adjust and get the flop cbet% to go up to 75, what should the respective turn and river freq look like?

Thanks for your help! Really appreciate it
01-15-2011 , 10:20 PM
your wtsd is high so i think youre prob not bluffing enough and/or checking back the turn and river with hands that you can probably get another street of value out of
01-17-2011 , 02:20 PM
So, i am getting raped in my last 100k hands (b/e and down a decent amount in ev), and it's f-ing up my game. I've determind i have been getting murdered in 3 bet pots where i call a 3 bet. So after looking over my database, filtering for "called preflop 3 bet", my last 100k hands i am losing -180pt/bb. My previous 100k hands my winrate is -4pt/bb. I'd say that's a pretty big difference. Obviously the -180pt/bb is a GROSS w/r, but how is the -4pt/bb? Is that a "normal" number? Or should this number always be positive?

I think it's a matter of me running into the top of everyone's range for the past 100k hands....well that, and a combonation me not remembering the last time i flatted a 3bet and got even a small piece of the flop. If i deciede to bluff raise, you can take it to the bank that i'm getting shipped on.

Anyway, what is a normal winrate for called preflop 3 bet?
01-17-2011 , 04:33 PM
^
I did 100nl for the last 6 months and got +52.8 PT/100 over a sample of >1500 hands.
01-17-2011 , 11:39 PM
you sure that's _called_ 3 bet and not 3 bet pre.

les, it can be negative and still be +ev because you are comparing it to folding which means you'd lose openraisesize *100/bb

so you raise 3bb get three bet, starting point is at -1.5ptbb/100.
01-18-2011 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AceofSpades
you sure that's _called_ 3 bet and not 3 bet pre.

les, it can be negative and still be +ev because you are comparing it to folding which means you'd lose openraisesize *100/bb

so you raise 3bb get three bet, starting point is at -1.5ptbb/100.
Not too sure what you're saying here...what i think you saying is that it's still+ev to call 3bets since if you fold everytime, thats obv -ev. Am i right? If so, yes that's fairly obvious.

I am 100% postive i filtered for called preflop 3 bet=true.

That's what i want to know here. What is a good, or even average winrate with this stat? Should it be positive? I would assume it would unless you are getting owned in 3bet pots where you call villians 3bet (which i think i am lately)
01-18-2011 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lesmurphy7 ver2.0
Not too sure what you're saying here...what i think you saying is that it's still+ev to call 3bets since if you fold everytime, thats obv -ev. Am i right? If so, yes that's fairly obvious.

I am 100% postive i filtered for called preflop 3 bet=true.

That's what i want to know here. What is a good, or even average winrate with this stat? Should it be positive? I would assume it would unless you are getting owned in 3bet pots where you call villians 3bet (which i think i am lately)

COTW-3Betting
If you open 3x and get 3bet and fold every time, you lose 150ptbb (300bb)/100. Not sure what is optimal for calling 3bets, but you should take a look at how you're playing 3bet pots ip and oop, player types, etc. Are you c/f too much oop? are you firing once and giving up IP, especially when you're on the button and get 3bet from the blinds.

Also folding is EV neutral, not -EV.

Last edited by Big Rob Jr.; 01-18-2011 at 02:35 AM.

      
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