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Old 12-19-2007, 08:15 PM   #1
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**** Official Stats and Graphs Analysis thread ****



More, is really indispensable increase PFR ? I feel comfortable with this value, and have seen successful players with 15/5.
Consider PokerEV tells I'm veeeeeery lucky, so expected BB/100 seems to be -0.9/100. In all-ins I netted 280$ more than expected.
SN is same as here, so, if someone playing with me want to comment it too, I will welcome him.

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Old 12-19-2007, 08:27 PM   #2
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

Raise more preflop. Steal more. Stop completing the sb so damn much. Seems you're not cbetting enough or you're making very weak folds with your W$WSF stat. Start c-betting more and stop playing fit or fold so much. You don't need to defend your blinds as much either. Start folding more. Honestly I think you should move down to 50nl and work at your game there so you're compfy trying new things.
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:07 PM   #3
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

You don't need to defend your blinds less either, though I suppose it might be a good idea until you've made the post-flop adjustments Chargers suggests. I actually defend my blinds more than you and am trying to pay enough attention so I can defend them even more, but you should develop your post-flop game more before you go crazy with defending the blinds (also since players steal more at nl200 it's less worthwhile to defend while playing nl100).
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:16 PM   #4
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

I've played with you Songheje, Watch some of the videos in the 50nl and below forum, you are too easy to read and bluff.

If someone has that thread that Landlord was maintaining of videos post it please.

Bottomsets are really good to watch.
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:27 PM   #5
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

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Bottomsets are really good to watch.
Thanks for answers guys.
What does it mean, Mike ?
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:30 PM   #6
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

Scroll down to videos
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Old 12-19-2007, 10:04 PM   #7
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

AN NYEONG HA SAY YO

The first thing I'd say is you're too loose, and may not understand position very well.
You are 15.5% VPIP but your attempt to steal is only 15%.
So you're probably too loose up front.

I'd suggest tightening up in the front ... if you want to open limp some trash, just dump it.

And then open up in LP. Steal more, and always come in with a raise.
You'll still have 15% vpip, but your PFR will be higher and you'll find yourself in easier and more proifitable situations.

ALSO - You're not getting enough value out of your big hands, never isolating limpers, and not 3-betting anything but AA/KK.

AN NYEONG HAY KEY SAY YO.
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:34 AM   #8
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

The Van Broken videos helped my game tremendously when i first started learning the cash game side of things. I would highly recommend those and the bottomset vids.
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Old 12-21-2007, 07:05 PM   #9
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

Hello all,
thanks again to anybody for your answers. A special thanks to the_main for his analysis. I found it very useful.
Watching bottomsets' video was impossible because it doesn't download.
However, I'm subscriber at cardrunners so watched some of ActionDJ. They are very well rated.
This time I tried to think mentally 'what I do here ?' before all his actions. And I was really close to his decisions. Except for what you told me. So hum.. seems I must correct
I tried to move my action on LP following your guidelines, results are here for 7500 hands.
PokerEV tells I was about .7 BB/100 lucky.
That's the screenshot. Please tell me if it's better than before and what can be wrong with these numbers.




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Old 12-21-2007, 07:43 PM   #10
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Help me out with some leaks (w/ stats)







I play 100nl and Im planning on moving up to 200nl soon. Does any see anything that I could improve on? Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-21-2007, 07:45 PM   #11
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Re: Help me out with some leaks (w/ stats)

raise more from late position and talk trash to regs in the chat.

wouldnt hurt to reraise a little more pf either.

otherwise, i find your stats impressive for a 100nl player minus the winrate. gl.
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:27 PM   #12
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Re: Help me out with some leaks (w/ stats)

bluff like 5% less. steal a little more blinds.

actually bad sample size you might just be running bad.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:03 PM   #13
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Re: Help me out with some leaks (w/ stats)

1. Raise more preflop, I mean try VPIP and PFR much more closer and your preflop ranges are more disguised.
2. Complete less SB
3. I would protect more BB, I love to see 80 or less. But yours is fine too.
4. I would attack more blinds.
5. I would be little bit more agro but it's the question of the style.
6. Don't open limp.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:51 PM   #14
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Improve on BB/100 Hands
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:57 PM   #15
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stats seems ~ok. Improve your post flop play
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:29 PM   #16
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Re: Help me out with some leaks (w/ stats)

I have had a lot of gross two outers and and plenty of coolers during this span too. Poker EV shows like minus $600 in AI equity so Im not too worried about the BB/100 at the moment.

Thanks for the input guys.
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:34 PM   #17
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This seems like FT stats
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:25 PM   #18
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3. I would protect more BB, I love to see 80 or less. But yours is fine too.
People with a fold blind to steal less than 80% are generally huge losers and calling stations at NL100, I believe it's much more better to fold a little bit too much than to defend like 60-70% of your blinds.
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:19 AM   #19
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I believe it's much more better to fold a little bit too much
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OP, what about your 100nl results makes you decide its time to move to 200nl? That AF alone is going to do you more harm than good imo.
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:33 AM   #20
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OP, what about your 100nl results makes you decide its time to move to 200nl? That AF alone is going to do you more harm than good imo.
Ive been a 100nl reg for a long time... mostly due to not playing enough, and spending profits for living expenses and going out. Ive always been a winning player.

In the last few months Ive gotten much more serious with working on my game and playing close to 100k hands per month. I finally have most of my bills paid off and I can now put money into my bankroll and move up. So that is what I plan to do.

Im not exactly sure what you mean by my AF doing more harm than good. Are you saying I need to get more agro? I dont think I will have too much trouble adjusting to the new limit. I do a lot more limping at 100nl than I would at a more aggressive game due to the players and the fact that they still overplay their hands in limped pots. Could you explain mas?
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:42 AM   #21
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

1. Still you are completing too much. But better than before and quite small sample.
2. Blind stealing is better now but still you need to improve this spot
3. Looks like you are going too far with your hands
4. Raise more preflop.

But generally. Move down. Move to NL25 or NL50 and play a "nit style". Just play your cards until you are showing profit. Don't steal and protect. If you are still loser, then you are doing big mistakes preflop/postflop - playing vulnerable hands OOP or don't extract maximum with premiums etc. If you show profit, then you are playing right cards right time in right place. If not then start reviewing your sessions and check what hands losing most, in what position, mway or hu pots, raised or limped pots etc.

Your preflop/postflop standard decisions are good if you are showing somekind of profit. After that start adding "features". Start steal more, start protecting blinds, start isolating etc. And then move up.

Its very hard to say where you lose but certainly you are not loser because you are completing too much or stealing too less. Stealing/Defending/Isolating etc making profit but you have to show some kind profit or break-even poker without these things. If not then you are doing bigger mistakes somewhere else and I don't know where. Work on your game and post hands and probably we can point out your leaks.

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Old 12-22-2007, 02:08 AM   #22
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

It looks like you've made some improvements, which is good. Take a look at what types of hands you're winning/losing with. Think about what kinds of hands you're getting all-in with. If you find yourself going all-in with top pair top kicker all the time, you're probably going to lose in the long run. It also seems like you're going to showdown too often (which is why I brought up the first point about what types of hands you're playing). You have a good increase in your VPIP as you get closer to the button, but it could stand to be higher in late position.

Aside from this, post lots of hands here!! It definitely helps and you'll be able to fix leaks you might have in your game. Good luck!
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Old 12-22-2007, 02:12 AM   #23
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

I'd move down a level and work on your postflop play/hand reading skills.
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Old 12-22-2007, 02:30 AM   #24
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Don't include preflop in your overall AF. (Your AF is prolly between 3-4 not counting pf so this is fine, imo)
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:59 PM   #25
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Re: Pokerstars NL100 - Please comment this pokertracker screenshot

Thanks for new answers guys.
I will continue working on it.
I can't go down in levels now because I'm near milestone. Continuing on 0 BB/100 at NL100 would be fine for these days.
However, I will post new results and hands or games if someone want to look at it I'll be glad in hearing new suggestions.
Meanwhile I did a deep compare analysis on 50.000 hands with a friend of mine, who is about 3 BB/100 in 200,000 hands NL100/200.
We found out I lost on small pots, so seems I must tune more on aggressive play..
But we found out also I do a disaster with pairs.
I have 57 BB/100 with these, while he is 160 BB/100.
Looking at pairs <TT , I have a -21 BB/100, that is really bad.
Trying also to analyze deeper that spot for now... but seems most of loss comes when I hit the set on flop or have overpairs.
I will post more on this thread when I will analyze it deeper.
A larger sample will help too.
Thanks Again.
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