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| Small Stakes Full Ring Discussion of .50/1 and 1/2 online and 5/10 live no-limit and pot-limit Texas hold'em full ring games, situations and strategies |
07-22-2008, 09:07 PM
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#136
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by Baja15
Lol at reg on reg violence
OnGame's Room No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed)
saw flop| saw showdown
MP1 ($94.50)
MP2 ($103.90)
MP3 ($122.95)
CO ($178.00)
Hero ($170.50)
SB ($90.00)
BB ($112.60)
UTG ($33.25)
UTG+1 ($18.50)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 6  , 6  .
6 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10.
Flop: ($28.50) 5  , 5  , 8 (2 players)
BB bets $14, Hero raises to $35, BB raises to $98.6, Hero calls $63.60.
Turn: ($225.70) 2 (2 players)
River: ($225.70) K (2 players)
Results below:
BB has 4c 4d (two pair, fives and fours).
Hero has 6d 6s (two pair, sixes and fives).
Also anyone want to have a competition on who can post the worst played hand.
This is probably my best effort from today. I run good at getting my money in ahead
OnGame's Room No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed)
saw flop| saw showdown
UTG ($51.30)
UTG+1 ($69.60)
MP1 ($110.50)
MP2 ($100.30)
Hero ($98.50)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($99.35)
SB ($318.70)
BB ($19.00)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q  , A  .
3 folds, MP2 raises to $2.5, Hero raises to $9, 4 folds, MP2 calls $6.50.
Flop: ($19.50) 4  , 6  , 2 (2 players)
MP2 bets $1.5, Hero raises to $13, MP2 raises to $35.5, Hero raises to $89.5, MP2 raises to $91.3.
Turn: ($200.30) J (2 players)
River: ($200.30) Q (2 players)
Results below:
MP2 has 3d 5d (straight, six high).
Hero has Qh As (one pair, queens).
Outcome: MP2 wins $200.30.
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They are right there is no need to bitch about it bad beats will happen I am jsut really pissed off .
I do how ever disagree that they take 5-8 buy ins worth of bad beats every session. if they do they must be flopping sets and gettting big hands like every other hand other wise they would not be winning at pokers no one would.
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07-22-2008, 09:36 PM
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#137
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
all 5 of those hands was 2 bi and some change.
There isnt a reasonable way to show you all the beats ive taken over the last 4 months. I guess I could post AI ev graphs of like - 8k between omaha and holdem, but everyone says thats junk.
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07-23-2008, 01:12 AM
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#138
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veteran
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,119
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by jack frost
people getting thier money in with 4 outs or no chance of winning besides runner runner is not standard. Peopl calling a raise with 2-4 and then raising the flop with a 4 high flush draw then calling a shove for like 70 more BB is not standard. A guy raising then calling a reraise with 2nd pair and hitting a 2 outter on the turn is not standard. You show where you lose 6 buyins of all ins to bad beats in every session you play and then show me you are winning and then you can tell me this is standard. This is not standard. We all get sucked out on by shorties but none of these are hands where I got it all in pre flop with a short stack and lost QQ vs AA or some thing like that.
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I feel your pain Jack. I am currently on a 15 buyin downswing.
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07-23-2008, 01:30 AM
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#139
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by coordi
all 5 of those hands was 2 bi and some change.
There isnt a reasonable way to show you all the beats ive taken over the last 4 months. I guess I could post AI ev graphs of like - 8k between omaha and holdem, but everyone says thats junk.
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an ev graph proves nothing you dont avg losing 6 all in pot's not (counting 20bb shorty hands) in a session MAYBE 3 OR 4. You can argue with me till your face turns blue it aint happening on a regular basis unless your playing massive sessions all the time. Also check your numbers on how many hh's i posted and how much money I am out of. My only point was that my oponetts play in all of those hands was any but standard and actually quite awful even by most fish standards.
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07-23-2008, 05:04 AM
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#140
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Malware Jedi
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In front of my monitor
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by jack frost
Table 'Lacadiera V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: downgoesdown ($197 in chips)
Seat 2: I Muad'Dib I ($209 in chips)
Seat 3: muskrrr ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: gotenda ($150.65 in chips)
Seat 6: tastytuna ($200 in chips)
Seat 7: profplyr ($402.60 in chips)
Seat 8: mangelini03 ($149.75 in chips)
Seat 9: jackk frost ($200 in chips)
I Muad'Dib I: posts small blind $1
muskrrr: posts big blind $2
goemonthe3rd: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jackk frost [Js Ts]
gotenda: folds
tastytuna: folds
profplyr: calls $2
mangelini03: calls $2
jackk frost: calls $2
downgoesdown: calls $2
I Muad'Dib I: folds
muskrrr: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h Jc Th]
muskrrr: checks
profplyr: bets $2
mangelini03: folds
jackk frost: raises $10 to $12
downgoesdown: calls $12
muskrrr: folds
profplyr: folds
*** TURN *** [2h Jc Th] [Ah]
jackk frost: bets $26
downgoesdown: calls $26
*** RIVER *** [2h Jc Th Ah] [4d]
jackk frost: checks
downgoesdown: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jackk frost: shows [Js Ts] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
downgoesdown: shows [Kd Qh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
downgoesdown collected $86 from pot
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LOL. He checked the nuts behind on the river?
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07-23-2008, 05:56 AM
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#141
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 211
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
LOL. He checked the nuts behind on the river?
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[ ] nuts
[x] I'm a nit
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07-23-2008, 07:09 AM
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#142
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dragon Slayer. Period, paragraph.
Posts: 17,697
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
I love thinking about stopping my session, deciding to play another half hour, and dropping multiple buy-ins to big fish in those 30 minutes.
Insta-effng-tilt.
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07-23-2008, 07:31 AM
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#143
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Malware Jedi
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In front of my monitor
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by Froddi
[ ] nuts
[x] I'm a nit
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[x] Visually handicapped
[ ] I'm a nit
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07-23-2008, 12:29 PM
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#144
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by jack frost
an ev graph proves nothing you dont avg losing 6 all in pot's not (counting 20bb shorty hands) in a session MAYBE 3 OR 4. You can argue with me till your face turns blue it aint happening on a regular basis unless your playing massive sessions all the time. Also check your numbers on how many hh's i posted and how much money I am out of. My only point was that my oponetts play in all of those hands was any but standard and actually quite awful even by most fish standards.
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I never specified I lose 6+ buying a day to ai beats, just that the hands you posted were pretty standard for daily happenings.
And that ev graphs wouldn't help.
But judging from a lot of hands people post when they "run bad" a majority of the posters here have never experienced a truly bad run cause the hands are every other day occurrnces for me. I'm not going to argue cause no one cares but you are more than welcome to sweat me any time
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07-23-2008, 12:49 PM
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#145
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
LOL. He checked the nuts behind on the river?
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not the nuts but still awful play on his part
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07-23-2008, 01:14 PM
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#146
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
Quote:
Originally Posted by coordi
I never specified I lose 6+ buying a day to ai beats, just that the hands you posted were pretty standard for daily happenings.
And that ev graphs wouldn't help.
But judging from a lot of hands people post when they "run bad" a majority of the posters here have never experienced a truly bad run cause the hands are every other day occurrnces for me. I'm not going to argue cause no one cares but you are more than welcome to sweat me any time
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I totaly agree that bad beats are standard and happen every day but 6 buyin worth of this **** isnt an every day occorance. Not sure if you were clear or not but these 6 hh's werent the the only beats I took yesterday they were just most rediculous ones. Further more while you didnt say that losing 6+ buy ins a day to bad beats like this is standard you said it was all standard my point was that it is not standard to lose to rediculous bad beats such as those as many times as I did in one session every day and its not.
Last edited by jack frost; 07-23-2008 at 01:20 PM.
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07-23-2008, 04:37 PM
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#147
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Malware Jedi
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In front of my monitor
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
My results at iPoker since june 1st.
Sweet.
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07-23-2008, 05:16 PM
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#148
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: minding my business
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
do you play 100 or 200?
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07-23-2008, 05:34 PM
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#149
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veteran
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,119
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
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Originally Posted by bottomset
not the nuts but still awful play on his part
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Yes it was a bad play on my part. I was on a form of tilt at the time.
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07-23-2008, 06:19 PM
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#150
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: The official beats, brag ,variance thread for 100-200nl
yeaaaaa.....
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