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05-29-2012 , 01:11 AM
Flip a coin, you're entire life has been riding on a coin until this point why not do one more?
05-29-2012 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SoMarginal
Flip a coin, you're entire life has been riding on a coin until this point why not do one more?
winnar
05-29-2012 , 01:46 AM
KiYoJoLo....

The latest multi-accounting team of cheating ch1nks to hit the NL100 tables. Have they moved up, or have I just missed them til now?
05-29-2012 , 02:56 AM
most people here acting like u buy 200k car and tomoro its worth not even a dime. if things go bad he can still sell it in a year for lots of cash.

on a sidenote most people here r just not into cars and will never understand how it is getting a srs erection only by hearing a big engine...

my advice is do it. as being said in teh end you can always sell it and there is no point being teh richest guy on teh graveyard
05-29-2012 , 03:16 AM
yah cuz either you buy it now, or you're dead in 5 years anyway. that's your only 2 choices.
05-29-2012 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
why would someone regret it (genuinely)? if they still want the car in 2-5-10-20 years they can still buy it? if they cant then well perhaps they couldnt afford it in the first place
There's the real possibility that if he doesn't do it now, it's not going to happen in the future. If he thinks it's not worth it because it's a -EV decision, that's likely to be his reasoning later on as well.

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Originally Posted by juan valdez
maybe you know something i dont. are you just talking about a sick SNE grind and plo upswing?
That's a big part of it, but from reading his FB, sounds like a bunch of other crazy ****'s been going on. Mostly a few months back, and was mostly implied so I don't want to get into details.

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Originally Posted by juan valdez
that sounds like the daniel negraneau version of life advice. good sounding reasons to make a bad play
I guess we have a different opinion of what makes a "bad play" here. Enjoying life and doing something/buying something you've always wanted is unlikely to be a bad play. I'd say it's only money, but it's up to Joe how important this is to him.

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Originally Posted by juan valdez
yeah that sounds like a good thing to do but the pitfall is people are probably delusional about how something like owning a ferrari will be like.

you mentioned you bought an expensive car and now it sounds like you dont think its a terrible idea for joe to buy a ferrari. if thats the case id be genuinely interested to read more on how you justify the purchase

imo a ferrari is like meeting a 10 at the bar, dolled up with all the jewelry, purse, etc. banging her is going to be great but as the saying goes for every hot chick theres a dude tired of banging her. the excitement/ joy of having a ferrari will fade along with its value. it will be very expensive to maintain, you'll need to take her shopping for new tires, brakes etc to keep her happy. when she gets old you'll still love her even though you want a younger model but the moment money gets tight the spending will get on your nerves and you'll probably start to resent her

i think getting drunk when you have to be up early the next day is a lesson you need to learn the hard way. i dont think wearing a seatbelt, unprotected sex, heroin, or spending 1/2- 1/3 of your net worth on a ferrari with no steady income are lessons you want to learn the hard way.

i would also caution joe to think about people who put less thought in to there post than klaric. saying "go for it, be a baller" is most likely coming from someone who lols if you went busto
For me, it helped clean out the inside of my head. I have a very different outlook on life/money at this point, and consider the money I "wasted" to be a big catalyst towards that point (car/house/traveling).

I'm trying to raise the point that there can be a lot of good results that can come from going down this path. Maybe he can get those benefits without buying the car. Maybe it doesn't matter.

And also (as has been said), he's not throwing out the entire value of the car. It's going to be a big chunk of money that's lost due to devaluation, but he seems pretty aware of how much that's going to be. That's the number we should be talking about here. 50k? 75k? Not sure, just guessing here... but 50-75k for him is obv a lot, but also still leaves him a ton behind.

The main point I'm behind here is that a lot of thought should be put into it, so that he can be happy with the decision he makes either way. If he buys it, people are going to say he's stupid for wasting so much money. If he doesn't, people are going to say he's stupid for backing out. Either way, it's going to be tough. No one can decide this for you Joe. Figure out what's important to you so that you can stand by your decision. You're going to have to for a while
05-29-2012 , 07:26 AM
probably unnecessary but ill give my 2 cents..

i see it as a simple assessment between what would make you happier? spending $200k on a ferrari or save it (or spend it something else, but what I feel is that you kinda want to buy something crazy, which makes sense after ur great poker results)..

what the wise thing to do is for the future is hard to say
is it wise to look only at the financial situation?, is it wise to only do what makes you happy? you have to balance that out,
but ill be definitely more to the happy-side of it, in the end thats what matters

was is wise that u played 100/200PLO with ur bankroll and limited high stakes plo experience? (correct me if im wrong)
No, but i have a feeling u wont regret that decision for the rest of ur life

best of luck deciding

btw: why do you have no intention of playing more high stakes PLO?
05-29-2012 , 08:03 AM
So many people like SMB in this thread. SMB hates money and would rather earn Merlin football stickers + computer game vouchers instead lol.
05-29-2012 , 08:48 AM
I dont believe both things you said
05-29-2012 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Test drove it today and talked about about of the financial aspects, I wouldn't pay canadian 12 percent tax but instead pay tax where the car would be registered. I'm also planning to have it in San Diego and not here in Vancouver juan. I would moreso get it because it is something I have dreamed of forever and to commemorate this epic run. The resale on the cars is not terrible, meaning if I sold it a year from now I would lose money on it but nothing ridiculous. I would ideally like to wire all of my money to my USA account right now and I would end up losing 15kish doing that


I got the money playing high stakes plo with the intention if I made enough I would buy one, can't back out of it now and end the degeneracy


obv took small video

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I was reading this thread in the morning and it was the last thing i read before i went to school, 5 min later i am waiting for bus and boom i see the exact same ferrari... that has to be sign
05-29-2012 , 09:18 AM
wait.. people go to school??
05-29-2012 , 01:03 PM
old (rich?) man advice: leverage the money into some real value. you may only get a few chances like this in your life. LOL ballah car. I drive a Prius and wear Timex.
05-29-2012 , 01:29 PM
Prius isn't really a budget car, just happens to have mpg > horsepower
05-29-2012 , 01:46 PM
hamsterpower...at least.

and a funny thing happened when we moved the Prius to Idaho from south GA. The gas engine rarely gets a chance during around-town driving to warm up....so the gas engine runs and runs and runs. GA 54+ MPG...........ID 42+ MPG.

but at least my watch keeps ticking
05-29-2012 , 02:29 PM
swear most of you may aswell be busto 10nl grinders

oooh ive got 200k in the bank what a great life I lead, so much life security!

like no offence king spew but the main reason I play poker is so im not gonna have to drive a prius and wear a timex, each to their own tho I guess
05-29-2012 , 02:34 PM
I would rather leverage 200K into 2.1M to make 5M over the next 5 years
05-29-2012 , 02:37 PM
is that realistic? and how so?
05-29-2012 , 02:44 PM
With the right background and banker/vc,,,,, yeah, ration 10:1 is possible for the right idea.

Rental props, franchises....problem ofc is we are now talking about having a real job managing whatever biz you go into. sucks to have no abilities other than flippin'.

What did "you" go to college for aside from the partys?
05-29-2012 , 02:54 PM
interesting to see the general consensus when it comes to poker bankroll management but then the wide range of thoughts on life roll.
05-29-2012 , 02:57 PM
are people really going to college with a life plan when there 18 or so
its just something you do, dont think about it as much
same as poker, everyone just rolls into it and some face that moment where its getting serious and they have to take a decision..
if you have the talent for poker, study whatever, make the best of the path you like to take..
**** money thats not what counts but it certainly helps a lot, and when u make the big cash, just do something fun with it
05-29-2012 , 02:59 PM
we don't make big cash. it's completely absurd and silly how we make it, but it's just not that much money. the top winners ITT are rich, but none of us are wealthy.
05-29-2012 , 03:00 PM
its diff if poker is side income.

if ur a professional i would think the time to get serious and make a decision would be somewhere when uiega started.
05-29-2012 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
, and when u make the big cash, just do something fun with it
all valid, slug..but i would like to expand on this.

200K is not big money...not even close to a life roll for a first world playah.

But 200K can be the jump start to bigger/better......rather than spent on a non-earning asset like a car or watch. And to ME... finding ways to turn money into a performing asset is fun and rewarding.
05-29-2012 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayox
swear most of you may aswell be busto 10nl grinders

oooh ive got 200k in the bank what a great life I lead, so much life security!

like no offence king spew but the main reason I play poker is so im not gonna have to drive a prius and wear a timex, each to their own tho I guess
+1
05-29-2012 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
we don't make big cash. it's completely absurd and silly how we make it, but it's just not that much money. the top winners ITT are rich, but none of us are wealthy.
It's all relative. $200k in one place is more than most people will see in their lifetime. $200k to me right now is massive. To you it may be a decent amount of money. To some guys it's pocket change.

I'm with Twackle on this one. People really overestimate the value of money and it's ability to make you happy. I play poker for the freedom and the quality of life it gives me. That doesn't mean that I don't work hard at my game and try my best to constantly improve, just that I don't feel the need to bust my balls to squeeze out every last penny that I can at the expense of my life outside of poker. If poker disappeared tomorrow I'd happily go take a minimum wage job and be happy to live off it, as long as I still get to do the things I enjoy. The very last thing I'd do is take a high paying, high stress, long hours job and work myself ragged just so I can buy a fancy car.

But then everybody's different. Some people are happiest when driving round in a balla car. I don't see the attraction personally as there are so many more interesting and exciting things to do in this world, but each to his own. That said, I'm probably never going to be in a position to buy a $200k car, so what do I know?

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Originally Posted by Slugant
are people really going to college with a life plan when there 18 or so
I went to uni cos when I was 18 I had no idea what I wanted to do, so I took my dad's advice to go and have a 3 year holiday.

Last edited by PokerRon247; 05-29-2012 at 03:27 PM.

      
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