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Originally Posted by Klairic
Yeah, I agree here. What he's saying is a problem if everyone decides to do it. If no one follows his lead and decides to do what they think is right, then we'll be fine. A lot of the more successful players set the standard to follow, and for the most part it seems to go well. Unfortunately, the problems at high stakes are making it seem like these things are ok, and I don't think it'll be that long (relative) before snap sitting out is common at all stakes.
Odds on mass amounts of poker players deciding to take -ev decisions to do the right thing here?
The thing is at high stakes we continue to play after the fish is gone. Its the bumhunters and shot takers that instantly sit out and bounce when the fish leaves. What's even worse is when the fish sits out and takes a break, they sit out, and insta sit back in when the fish comes back. That's just absolutely disgusting...
Zach has a good point here, an orbit or two ain't gonna cost you an arm and a leg, but the fish might rebuy is he sees the game is still going and he is not the OBVIOUS mark in his/her mind. When everyone sits out and waits to see if he's gonna rebuy and the game barely continues, he's like eff this, I'm no sucka...
At this point, there's no way to stop tim and the other god-seaters. And its part of online poker, we have to deal with it. At least PTR going down has slowed down the initial flood of god-seaters when a fish sits down a w/ a table starting reg. At least the table fills slowly and looks natural, whereas 2 weeks ago, within 5 literally 5seconds, a FR table will be full and the fish is sitting there thinking, wtf just happened?!
Hard to ask other players to pay another BB when they don't want to. If I were them, in their position, I wouldn't want to... The only thing I've started doing is b1tching out other regs for bad conduct like that and the results have surprising good, for the most part they actually agree with me and start doing the right thing (not insta-sitting out, giving back btns). At 400NL and up tho, the player pool is much smaller so easier to develop verbal relationships with players as you see them all the time.