I can absolutely promise you this is a bad decision if you don't destroy the LSAT and get into at least a T1, T-14 to be safe...and without a stellar GPA that means 170+ which is extremely tough

If you attend an average or bad school, you HAVE to be top 10-15% in your class (which is obviously extremely hard) to have a chance at a decent job, otherwise you get stuck with some crappy 40-50k/yr job, and after taxes/loans w/ interest you are making 25k-35k

A good route imo if you aren't fully committed or don't have the gpa/lsat to get into a good school is paralegaling, they make decent money without all the law school debt

Or.... you could go this route

dont worry poker isnt the whole life plan. i'm going to grind until i have 300k saved up then open one of those payroll advance 59% interest scam poor people stores.

scamming poor people doesn't seem like the most +ev move...

eh average starting salary for my major from my school is something like 65k/yr I think? And I hardly go to a top school or anything...

And I'd much rather make 65k+benefits plus be able to play poker on the side/have decent resume/job security (yes I realize people get laid off but I guarantee you prospects of having a well-paying job in 20 years if I get real job out of college >>>>>> if I have a huge resume gap from playing poker) than make 100k/yr without benefits and with all the variance poker brings.

alright but whatever you are studying makes you an outlier, you realize that? + costs/time/failure

the only direction from Michigan(the school) where people were looking at 60-70k entry w/o grad school was finance and industrial engingeering iirc

oh quite the contrary, as has been proven time and time again.

This happens when people think the company owes them something. When you are working and making money for the company this rarely happens.

I know I continue to work (sometime just show up right now because how slow the construction biz is) because I always make the company money.

I think those of you that would rather "grind" than get an education are being short sighted. They can never take away your degree and the older you get the harder it is to pursue a degree because life gets in the way.

Oh and grinding when you are in your 50's is no big deal.....as long as it's not your sole income.

Get better at paying taxes quarterly....then you will only owe 5-6k in April. It is always better to owe then get a refund......government doesn't pay interest on early payments.

the irony is most of us will be single forever thus all of this is entirely moot

It's actually better to not pay quarterlies and keep that money invested througout the fiscal year since the interest rate is minimal

[ ] good idea
[ ] debt can be cleared through bankruptcy
[x] will be a debt serf

the idea of owing 200k makes my balls disappear

There are penalties if you owe too much to the government. It's not alot (100-200) depending on the amount owed. With amount you get on your investments it may be an even swap right now.

We paid for our kids school so they wouldn't be carrying that kind of debt to start life. They were also encouraged to attend community college for the first 2 years then they went to a four year program knowing what they wanted to do for a career. Both took 3 years at the junior school before moving on....

Like working at Target amirite?

Care to wager on the 2nd bolded part? I put it at a 0.000000000000001% chance you ever graduate from a Law School. PM me for details on bet.

it's just a matter of weighing the penalty interest rate vs. your average return in the market, which is higher.

Les gtfo of here with your' hate. You're such a piece of **** and must live a miserable life, to come on here and hate as much as you do.

No one can have so much hate to spew without something terribly wrong in their life. Maybe dump your skinny bitch and going for a fat one will help.

^personal attack itt

bought lots of NUGT Friday, weeeeeee

i dont understand why everyone has to take a **** on someones goals everytime does it make you feel better about ur ****ty ****ing life why cant he graduate law school? is he not intelligent enough can he not accomplish anything he puts his mind too? ur just a pussy who has to come on a stupid nerd forum... not saying yall are needs to make one feel better about being a ****ing loser.. i bet julien has a way higher chance of graduating law school then u do of actually having a girl talk to you and get some pussy withought paying for it

OK, we get it. les is not a cool cat. let it go.

les, do not rebuttal please. these guys put their toe on the line and I noticed.

i believe he goes by david now

sorry, SA..... worm gunna worm. (meaningful undertone)

very strongly this. i have plenty of friends in law school, and this is exactly what i hear.

graduating law school isn't a ticket to getting a job in law. the law market is just like any other, and given how ****ty everything is right now, people have gotten squeezed like never before. you used to be pretty golden graduating any school in the top 50, but now you're pretty much only set in the top 5 or maybe top 14 (set as in can graduate at bottom of class).

i have a friend at emory right now who's bottom 1/4 of his class, and is basically ****ed. he was one of those low gpa/high lsat cases. i don't get why they let people in who never have accomplished much academically, but he's pretty much getting the same grades he always has (low-mid bs).

do your research before making an investment (so much time and money) like this. be realistic about yourself and your goals.

edit: also, law school is where strat strat was founded. some cut throat mother****ers there.