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Old 02-06-2012, 05:35 PM   #1
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NL100 : AA vs possible flush

Hi,

Villain is 22.4 over 2k hands

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($100)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($101)
UTG+1 ($171)
UTG+2 ($112)
CO ($45.10)
BTN ($46.50)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, fold, fold, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, fold, Hero raises to $6, fold, BTN calls $5

FLOP ($13.50) 4 7 4

Hero bets $7.50, BTN calls $7.50

TURN ($28.50) 4 7 4 Q

Hero ?

What would you do here please ?
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:40 PM   #2
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

2nd bet seems right
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:09 PM   #3
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

$21.49
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:11 PM   #4
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

yeah like 20 and call is good
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:24 PM   #5
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Hi,

Villain is 22.4 over 2k hands
Villain is 22/4.


Thanks for your advices.


What hands are you expecting him to call here please ?

I often find myself in this spot and don't bet because I think that villain often has a flush and when he doesn't he will fold because he's scared of both the Q and the third club (unless he has like Ac7x).
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:26 PM   #6
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

hes just some fish on a board where hes gonna have rouble folding like 88 with a flush draw or whatever.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:44 PM   #7
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

What others said and I would also bet flop ~$11-12

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Old 02-07-2012, 07:31 AM   #8
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I would also bet flop ~$11-12
why
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:12 PM   #9
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why
Cause we are well ahead of his range, and cause a fish calling range is not very elastic
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:14 PM   #10
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

I would bet more on flop, esp with stack size of villain. I would try to commit myself by leaving him with only a pot size stack left and then I get it in on any turn. If he hit, he hit but no need to try to level yourself vs half stackers.
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:28 PM   #11
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

Not sure y'all looking at stacks right. I think Xela is spot on, bigger flop bet sets up turn shove.

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:41 PM   #12
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

i think you should cbet smaller.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:05 PM   #13
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Re: NL100 : AA vs possible flush

Agree with smaller cbet. I prefer getting the stacks in over 3 streets as opposed to 2, but maybe thats just me.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:18 AM   #14
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yeah his calling range on the flop is quite elastic, blasting almost pot could easily make him fold some ace highs and overcards that wouldn't be folding to half pot.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:19 AM   #15
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bigger flop bet sets up turn shove.
Are there actual benefits to this other than saving the amount of clicks? Is there a tangible difference in the outcomes of shoving turn for 3/4 pot or betting 3/4 pot with 1/3 the pot left?
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