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AKs on KT7 Rainbow Flop AKs on KT7 Rainbow Flop

09-28-2016 , 10:36 PM
Pre-flop raise too small?
3rd barrel justified?
All-in call incorrect?
i guess..

888 Poker - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 230.5 BB (VPIP: 11.79, PFR: 8.96, 3Bet Preflop: 3.00, Hands: 645)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BTN: 193.5 BB (VPIP: 56.10, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 41)
Hero (SB): 107.8 BB
BB: 66.1 BB (VPIP: 47.06, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 18.75, Hands: 35)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.47, PFR: 12.05, 3Bet Preflop: 4.57, Hands: 501)
UTG+1: 165.7 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 166.4 BB (VPIP: 19.18, PFR: 15.92, 3Bet Preflop: 5.15, Hands: 253)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) K T 7
Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB

River: (30 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 22.5 BB, BB raises to 51.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 28.6 BB
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10-01-2016 , 07:12 PM
BB is a fish, and will often have a 7. J9 got there too. He will also have busted draws. x/c river looks good. If he jams I wouldn't hate a fold tbh. It's hard to imagine how bet/calling isn't terrible.
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10-07-2016 , 05:21 PM
I'd raise more preflop. Not really many bluffing candidates in villain's range so I'd probably fold.

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10-11-2016 , 01:35 PM
When board paired, it's a !.
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10-17-2016 , 11:20 AM
I would have made a bigger preflop raise. And a fold in the end would most likely be the best move. Kind of tough in that situation either way
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10-18-2016 , 10:33 PM
Are people saying raise more PF because of Villain's VPIP or because it is AKs in a BvB situation?

When is it correct to let your sizing dictate your strength versus disguising your range by opening the same amount every time?
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10-27-2016 , 07:48 AM
your gonna lose here vs a fish but cant not tripple, wouldnt really fold unless reads hes unreal passive
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11-04-2016 , 08:53 PM
I think PF is fine if 3BB is your standard raise size. I wouldn't raise bigger just because you have AK. You're not trying to drive him out of the pot PF; you're trying to get him to come along with a wide range that you are crushing with AK.

You can't call his river all-in raise. As played it's a bet fold. I would even consider checking and then calling or folding the river depending on his bet size and your read on him.
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11-07-2016 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by La Onza
I think PF is fine if 3BB is your standard raise size. I wouldn't raise bigger just because you have AK. You're not trying to drive him out of the pot PF; you're trying to get him to come along with a wide range that you are crushing with AK.

You can't call his river all-in raise. As played it's a bet fold. I would even consider checking and then calling or folding the river depending on his bet size and your read on him.
Agreed
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11-19-2016 , 10:34 AM
I would x/call river, but if we bet, it's really hard to fold. But I think he is never doing this for value with a worst hand than ours, we only beat bluffs
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11-23-2016 , 06:12 PM
Check/calling is awful.

You have to bet. Generally a biggish size is good too, but his stack size makes it ugly when he shoves.

If you want a really easy default play in this precise spot then bet 1/2 pot/fold. If the flop is two-tone, then check/call.
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11-25-2016 , 01:19 AM
He calls our c-bet, our alarms should start sounding. We bet on a paired board (which we shouldn't do) and he calls again, now bells and whistles should be going off.
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11-25-2016 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by delvuter
He calls our c-bet, our alarms should start sounding. We bet on a paired board (which we shouldn't do) and he calls again, now bells and whistles should be going off.
Exactly. He only plays 47% of hands so he probably flopped a set. A flute should be playing in your ear.
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11-30-2016 , 04:19 AM
River seems like a fold to me. His line looks pretty strong. He probably has a str8, 7x, or house. You may get lucky and he could do this with like QJ or whatever, but you are beat too often to call.

@MeleaB:
Why is check/calling river terrible? Missed draws are much more likely to bluff. Even a hand like KQ or KJ could bet thinking it is ahead.

Last edited by TheGodson; 11-30-2016 at 04:26 AM.
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12-01-2016 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
River seems like a fold to me. His line looks pretty strong. He probably has a str8, 7x, or house. You may get lucky and he could do this with like QJ or whatever, but you are beat too often to call.

@MeleaB:
Why is check/calling river terrible? Missed draws are much more likely to bluff. Even a hand like KQ or KJ could bet thinking it is ahead.

Because this big of a fish has more hands with SDV that will call than missed draws that will bluff. I'd bet more on flop too as he is either calling or folding regardless of whether you bet 50% or 80% pot.
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12-01-2016 , 10:32 AM
I like a big flop bet too. I like 5BBs on flop. Then a pot sized bet on turn. Then a shove on the river.

In order for betting to be better than check/calling we have to have more hands that call that would have checked the river than draws to bluff that would have folded to a bet.

The hands I see him calling that would have checked that we beat would be: K9, K6-K2, and AT.
Draws that bluff when cheked to would be: QJ, Q9, and 95


Okay, so for some reason I thought there would be more draws to prove you wrong, but I guess I was wrong. (AQ and AJ probably 3-bet pre and hands like J8 probably check back river cuz of hitting a pair).
Would you call a river bet after betting though? Because if you are then that makes betting possibly worse because we may lose more money when we run into hands that beat us.

I may have messed something up, but I'm really ****ing tired right now and need to go to bed. Good night.
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