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UTG is 40bb shortstacker
BTN is quiet 35 VPIP 24 PFR over 50 hands. Folded to LP raise 4/4 times, Folded to 3bet 1/5, and 3 bet 1/22.

UTG+1 raises $6, Hero raises to $18, BTN calls $18, UTG folds

Pot ($45) K 8 6 r

Hero bets $24, Villian calls $24

Pot ($93) Turn king r

i decided to check (good or bad?) villain bets $37

should i have bet the turn and folded to a raise and what if i bet the turn and he calls what do i do on river blanks?

Whoops, nevermind.

I find myself bet/folding these turns against strong/standard opponents.

I would bet more on the flop.

"strong/standard" opponents aren't raising the turn IP with a better hand and are making your life hell IP in this spot. you're burning money. how do you play the river when the most likely scenario happens if your opponent continues and that's you getting called?

Check/fold feels awfully weak here, but I have difficulty imagining a hand in his range that doesn't include a K, 88 or 66, unless he thinks that the flop was just a CB with AQ, and is looking you up with JJ, but I am unclear how I would get that information OOP.

Can't check fold here. Too weak. His bet sizing is so small. I would call and evaluate the river.

If you could re-play the hand, i would bet the turn with the plan to fold if he raises you.

This is a good example of how it's hard to play a hand OOP.

You'd bet like 10 and fold to 27 more to villain's allin? That's the next level.

What do you do if he calls turn?

I think I prefer c/c turn c/f most rivers unless BB is never betting something like JJ here and only has Kx or better.

what is his range pre? what are his bluffs psot? what does he stack/size like this for value?

Lots of missing information, so I'm going to assume this is 6 handed.

I would c/call turn & c/call river

What Kx can BTN possibly have here? Consider the preflop action and stack depths. I think it's a spot where BTN feels compelled to overbluff, at least on the turn, even though he has basically zero Kx.

check/shove turn
stack a donk line needs to make a comeback

Coldcalling 66 or 88 here with an early raise from a 40bb stack seems pretty unlikely. I also think calling any K preflop that isn't AK would be pretty spewy and we have two aces so he shouldn't have a K very often unless his preflop range is just AK and QQ+ or something.

Turn check is good imo. I think you need to call that small turn bet and fold river unimproved. He probably has AK, but QQ and JJ could take this line too. The reason why QQ or JJ could bet the turn small is so they don't have to worry as much about facing a river lead from you. This keeps the pot smaller and allows for a cheaper showdown.

If the player has jacks or queens he likes seeing the second King. He's much more likely to put you on AQ or 10s so his bet makes sense. Also, if you check call he's strongly considering that you now have aces. If he's a smart player he may end up bombing the river knowing you would have a hard time calling. If you go all in after his bet you are only getting called by the king so you left yourself with only a call call or fold option.

Further, I think when the second King comes its hard to put him on AK because you have two aces and there are two kings now on the board. It could have happened but it would be very unlucky. I think KQ suited is a terrible cold call for a three bet if that's the hand you are worried about.

I would pay it off since you gave away your hand and his betting line adds up to JJ or QQ.

Bet turn. Fold to a re-raise.

on the turn he has $58 and the pot is $93. what amount could we possibly bet and then fold when shoved on? even if we go same bet $24 and he shoves its $34 to call for what will be a $200 pot

After further thought I'd actually change what i said. I would prefer to bet big on the turn. And force him to go all in or fold. I just don't see a Shortstacker trying to stack off with 88 or 66 by cold calling a 3bet. I don't see a K in his hand. Thoughts?

The UTG raiser was shortstacked.

Villain in question has coldcalled our 3bet with the knowledge that a 40bb stacked opened UTG. I think his range should be hands he is willing to stack off for 40bb vs a UTG opener so less likely to have 66/88 and more likely to have TT+ and AK.

I thnk that against a reg i x/f turn bcause if call flop whit something like QQ bihind turn.

Its hard, I think that against a 30/x u can bet /fold turn and x/f river. Its a little thin bet against a semi fish, but u dont put ur hand face up and is easyer to fold x/f river.

Play x/f turn its something : s. I mean, maby he float u whit a pp, 98 or something like this.
I pref to bet more than x/c and play x/f river.