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50NL AA on a draw heavy board turn decision? 50NL AA on a draw heavy board turn decision?

03-25-2017 , 04:06 PM
Do I ever consider betting the turn here and what do I do when he bets pretty big here, calling seams questionable c/r too...?

PokerStars - €0.50 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 135.24 BB (VPIP: 22.85, PFR: 15.54, 3Bet Preflop: 5.90, Hands: 2,166)
MP: 124.46 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
Hero (MP+1): 100.88 BB
CO: 102.76 BB (VPIP: 26.44, PFR: 18.89, 3Bet Preflop: 5.95, Hands: 456)
BTN: 112.28 BB (VPIP: 17.52, PFR: 12.06, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 819)
SB: 101.26 BB (VPIP: 49.25, PFR: 22.39, 3Bet Preflop: 11.54, Hands: 69)
BB: 29.5 BB (VPIP: 22.20, PFR: 16.82, 3Bet Preflop: 7.56, Hands: 2,084)
UTG: 164.56 BB (VPIP: 17.11, PFR: 10.09, 3Bet Preflop: 4.31, Hands: 5,053)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (13 BB, 4 players) 8 7 5
SB checks, Hero bets 6.5 BB, CO calls 6.5 BB, BTN calls 6.5 BB, fold

Turn: (32.5 BB, 3 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 22 BB, fold, Hero?
50NL AA on a draw heavy board turn decision? Quote
03-28-2017 , 08:00 PM
So you're worried about 6/9, 6/4 or a set. First of all, I raise to 4 BB pf but that's small. Definitely bet pot on the flop instead of half and it makes your decisions elsewhere easier, but you're looking at 99+ here often enough that I come over the top on this turn.

I also lead out on this turn because this still has a lot of incomplete draws. If villain comes over the top we can drop, and if not we get more value.

I assume that because you are posting this your villain has 77/88, but if you had played it differently, you may have been in a better spot.


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03-28-2017 , 08:04 PM
So let's assume that your villain has you on AK. With a continuation bet on the flop, and getting looked up, aren't you checking the turn? Wouldn't TT bet for value?


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03-28-2017 , 08:50 PM
bet bigger or smaller on the flop with your ranges here imo. Play turns, possiblly fold many rivers, oop more likely to XC turns
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03-29-2017 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PoBoy321
So you're worried about 6/9, 6/4 or a set. First of all, I raise to 4 BB pf but that's small. Definitely bet pot on the flop instead of half and it makes your decisions elsewhere easier, but you're looking at 99+ here often enough that I come over the top on this turn.

I also lead out on this turn because this still has a lot of incomplete draws. If villain comes over the top we can drop, and if not we get more value.

I assume that because you are posting this your villain has 77/88, but if you had played it differently, you may have been in a better spot.


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What do I do if i lead the turn board pairs on the river and i C and he leads for 1/2 the pot? I actually ended up folding the turn as this villain seamed too tight to be doing this with one pair/draw maybe a mistake.
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03-29-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Puma1
What do I do if i lead the turn board pairs on the river and i C and he leads for 1/2 the pot? I actually ended up folding the turn as this villain seamed too tight to be doing this with one pair/draw maybe a mistake.


I would have no reason to believe that the board pairing on the river would decrease our equity. If it paired, I would x, hoping to induce a bluff.


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03-29-2017 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PoBoy321
I would have no reason to believe that the board pairing on the river would decrease our equity. If it paired, I would x, hoping to induce a bluff.


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True but its a 4way pot strong hand are very likely than again do you feel villains will three barell when its obvious u rep an overpair? Is this just a mandatory call on the river if board pairs?
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03-29-2017 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Puma1
True but its a 4way pot strong hand are very likely than again do you feel villains will three barell when its obvious u rep an overpair? Is this just a mandatory call on the river if board pairs?


If the board pairs, it only changes the hand in that it he goes from a better hand to a much better hand. In fact, depending on the card that pairs, it could counterfeit some of his two pair hands, strengthening your position.


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03-29-2017 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PoBoy321
If the board pairs, it only changes the hand in that it he goes from a better hand to a much better hand. In fact, depending on the card that pairs, it could counterfeit some of his two pair hands, strengthening your position.


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Yes I understand this but more metagame wise, do you feel he is bluffing enough here if he bets the river?
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03-29-2017 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Puma1
Yes I understand this but more metagame wise, do you feel he is bluffing enough here if he bets the river?


It's situation dependent. Does the 3 pair? Or does the 8? Again, he could be overvaluing lesser overpairs.


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03-29-2017 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PoBoy321
It's situation dependent. Does the 3 pair? Or does the 8? Again, he could be overvaluing lesser overpairs.


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I see thank you.
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