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05-05-2017 , 05:49 PM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 89.2 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BB: 128.5 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 34.7 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
UTG+1: 154.4 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
MP: 95.5 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (MP+1): 104.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 2

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.4 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 10.6 BB

Flop: (33 BB, 2 players) A 8 6
SB bets 17.5 BB, Hero raises to 35 BB, SB calls 17.5 BB

Turn: (103 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 54.6 BB and is all-in, SB calls 50.5 BB and is all-in

I don't feel great about this play. But it seems like Villain has TT,JJ,QQ,KK and a lot of air in his range because of trying to squeeze pre. But he could also be 3 betting light here with better aces?

I'm still pretty new to poker, any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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05-05-2017 , 06:21 PM
If sb's 3bet sizing wasn't ridiculous you can fold profitably. There is no reason to think he is bluffing here. He basically has the standard TT+ Ak+ maybe AQ. TT-KK has very little equity vs you so there is no reason to bet, and they are not going to play for stacks on an A high flop. You should call flop if you think he cbets TT-KK, and fold to any further barrels because it would be just insane to bluff in his position.
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05-06-2017 , 12:10 PM
Everything looks good until you call the 3bet pre. Although calling isn't completely terrible, we have position, a blocker to dominating A hands and are sooted, however I think i still find a fold here..

IDK... As played given there are 2 Aces out and one in your hand it's unlikely villain has an Ace.. I think a call on the flop is better as by raising you fold out worse hands and keep in better..

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05-06-2017 , 12:20 PM
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05-08-2017 , 05:33 AM
I think calling the 3b pre is probably bad vs a range that's mostly high pairs and better aces. Also because of your bigger sizing pre (which is fine) I think the general population of players is somewhat less likely to make a light 3b with a weak ace. So it's mostly TT+, AQ+.

I think raising the flop has no reason whatsoever - he probably folds all his worse hands except for flushes which he probably doesn't have, and probably no better ones, maybe A5 or so if he decided to 3b that. I guess you can jam turn once you get trips and if for some reason he got sticky with KK he might call. Think a higher A is more likely but it's not like you're folding at this point.
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05-08-2017 , 09:17 AM
Flop raise makes absolutely no sense. If you think he has TT-KK or air, you have him crushed; but if he has AQ/AK, he has you crushed and isn't folding - so why the heck are you raising him?

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05-08-2017 , 04:42 PM
What did the villain end up having?

When you get raised nearly that big preflop, I think it's time to let go of A2s even if you have position. You have to expect his range to be something around TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK, AQs at this point.

When he cbets the flop and then calls your raise, you'd have to suspect he has AA, AK, AQ at this point. Anyone calling that flop raise with worse than a pair of aces is a huge losing player.

For the above reason alone, you shouldn't bet the turn. If they are a losing player, you need to give them a chance to bluff at the pot. By betting the turn, you kill off almost all the weaker hands because they can't call you. And all the better hands are definitely calling you.

If you check the turn, you give him a chance to bluff the river, which is the best move for you on the turn because barely any worse hands are calling you. Sure you might let the flush draw there, but there's a low chance of that happening and an even lower chance he is on that flush draw.

Nevertheless, you need to give busted flush draws the opportunity to bluff the river as well as any other sort of hand that's repping the Ax type hands.
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05-10-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sagejames

I don't feel great about this play. But it seems like Villain has TT,JJ,QQ,KK and a lot of air in his range because of trying to squeeze pre. But he could also be 3 betting light here with better aces?
he is not reisolating light here just fold preflop.
as played preflop call flop. With tripps even a fold i guess but sucks if he barrels the turn. tough spot!
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05-16-2017 , 04:53 PM
Actually, I don't think any of the line is that great.

I like my suited aces, but opening it after 2 limps and in middle position I am not wild about. Easy to wind up multi-way and if you don't flop a draw, it will be super awkward to play profitably.

Calling the 3 bet might be my least favourite play there. A fold should likely be the default, and if you are going to be adventurous, given the ace blocker, you can try the occasional 4 bet and make his somewhat pair heavy range pretty darn scared out of position. And if he calls we can continue to represent aces if we get a 2 heart or combo draw flop, and otherwise shut down. But playing A2 passively? We are very likely way behind, and will have to fold on the flop most of the time.

Then on the flop we make two mistakes. First, we think villain can't have an ace and we are good (still 8 AK combos, more than any of the individual pairs). Second, we then decide to raise for value. If you were right about being good, you want villain to keep firing, not to push them off the hand. If you are wrong you want the pot small.

After we raise and call we should be pretty sure villain has AK or maybe AQ of spades, and we should be shutting down.

Your shove on the turn makes things worse. No better hand ever folds. If someone was being sticky with KK or QQ, you were winning anyway.
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05-16-2017 , 07:28 PM
If you're new to poker I recommend not thinking people are 3 bet bluffing you. I suspect this thought led to how the hand played out. To your credit you showed a lot of balls in the hand but it was strategically very poorly played.

Start out playing in such a way that you always give credit, if someone raises only call if you have a hand that beats a hand that would raise for value. You shouldn't be getting your whole stack in after 11 hands often if you play well.
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