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Old 08-14-2012, 11:44 PM   #1
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400 NL - ORLY

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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    BB: $429.20 (107.3 bb)
    CO: $269 (67.3 bb)
    BTN: $1,461.13 (365.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): $901.05 (225.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
    2 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

    Flop: ($24) 4 4 T (2 players)
    Hero bets $18, BB raises to $54, Hero calls $36

    Turn: ($132) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks

    River: ($132) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $363.20 and is all-in, Hero ?



    Villain 26/22 over 167.
    F2cb-67
    Raise cb 16, 6 samples.
    This was while the table was short though so probably a reg of some description.

    Thoughts?
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    Old 08-14-2012, 11:55 PM   #2
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    Any chance he can do this light for value with like Axss or any other random Ax he decided to raise on the flop? I'd prob click call. I feel like he just bets all his value hands on the turn. You lose to random A8.
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    Old 08-15-2012, 12:00 AM   #3
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    id like to help you, but have no idea without knowing who this is against. my instinct says fold
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    Old 08-15-2012, 12:11 AM   #4
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    best argument for calling is that when you have no idea wtf someone is doing and his play is probably terrible, then calling the top portion of your range is fine
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    Old 08-15-2012, 12:19 AM   #5
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    nice ninja edit
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    Old 08-15-2012, 12:22 AM   #6
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    i saw it. i'll send you a hand ranking chart over skype mate, dw.
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    Old 08-15-2012, 12:29 AM   #7
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    lololol.

    more good info: i don't really think we beat much or any of his value range. he's 3betting AJ+ pre (often), and then we lose to A10 AND A8 (AA8810 > AA44K)
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    Old 08-15-2012, 01:03 AM   #8
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    I think I need a read that he's spewy or doesn't have a good idea of what he's doing postflop to call here. It's such a dumb line, which of course makes me want to call but what bluffs does he check turn and overbet river with? So strange...
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    Old 08-15-2012, 01:35 AM   #9
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    How likely is it that villain knows you never fold?
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    Old 08-15-2012, 01:37 AM   #10
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    id call
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    Old 08-15-2012, 01:56 AM   #11
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    ...uhhhhhh fold because he'd bet smaller with bluffs more often

    Last edited by Tumaterminator; 08-15-2012 at 02:21 AM. Reason: bluffs = atc
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    Old 08-15-2012, 02:24 AM   #12
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    Quote:
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    I feel like he just bets all his value hands on the turn.
    he checks back spades a lot on turn tho, and he also reps missed spades by jamboing river. (not saying you're necessarily wrong, just finding reason in the line. need some dynamic to figure out how passive villain thinks we'll play the turn )

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    Old 08-15-2012, 02:40 AM   #13
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    drunk or sober? drugs or no drugs?


    call
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    Old 08-15-2012, 10:17 AM   #14
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    No way this can be a fold.
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    Old 08-15-2012, 10:43 AM   #15
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    Re: 400 NL - ORLY

    I must have changed my mind 15 times about this hand in ten mins. at first glance I was def in the call and not really close camp, but I think I'm in the it's a fold group now.

    Pretty sure curiosity would get the better of me in game though. I feel like his hand has to be something retarded. Just no idea if its retarded strong or retarded weak.
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