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Old 02-08-2012, 02:25 AM   #1
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100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

Villain plays 21/15 (16% raise from UTG) with a 52% fold to 3bet in 1k hands. He has a 12% raise cb IP.
Fish is 42/26 with 30% fold to 3bet in 300 hands.



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11817472

CO: $60.69 (60.7 bb)
BTN: $165.30 (165.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $104.53 (104.5 bb)
BB: $109.97 (110 bb)
UTG+2: $116.13 (116.1 bb)
MP1: $140.41 (140.4 bb)
MP2: $425.07 (425.1 bb)
MP3: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
2 folds, MP2 raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.50, Hero raises to $12.50, BB folds, MP2 calls $10, BTN calls $10

Flop: ($38.50) 6 3 J (3 players)
Hero bets $23.90, MP2 raises to $47.80, Hero ??
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:06 AM   #2
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

Call, don't fold on later streets and prepare a fist pump.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:15 AM   #3
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

Tough spot but I would fold. On such a wet board he is unlikely to raise any value hands worse than KK.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:18 AM   #4
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

I now got a call and fold. Any more tips? It would be better if you put a reason behind your answers btw.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:20 AM   #5
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Tough spot but I would fold. On such a wet board he is unlikely to raise any value hands worse than KK.
Don't wet boards inspire most players to play their value hands faster to protect against being outdrawn? I'm shipping flop
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:32 AM   #6
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

huh? what happened to BTN?
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:14 AM   #7
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

first off, which one is which stats-wise? 2nd off, what happened to btn otf? 3rd off, don't fold.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:20 AM   #8
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

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Call, don't fold on later streets and prepare a fist pump.
it's a shove or a fold obv
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:56 AM   #9
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

Yeah, where did BTN go? I call shenanigans
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:54 AM   #10
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

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it's a shove or a fold obv
why a shove?
why a fold?
why obvious?
why not a call?
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:15 AM   #11
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

Oh sorry btn was fish, he folded lol.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:19 AM   #12
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

My thought was that this is an easy shove because if villain flopped a set he would prob slowplay otf considering btn is a fish right?
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

where did btn go?
i like calling and c c most turns.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:40 AM   #14
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

calling is ****. we will have 1/3 pot effective stacks. if we check to him then he will be hard pressed to do anything but play perfectly
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:48 AM   #15
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Re: 100NL: KK 3bet pot vs Lag reg + lagtard fish

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My thought was that this is an easy shove because if villain flopped a set he would prob slowplay otf considering btn is a fish right?
not with this stacksizes, MP2 covers the 160bb from the fish.
would he play the NFD the same way? that's the question.

with which type of hands he'd overcall preflop to play with the fish?
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