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100NL hand played badly? 100NL hand played badly?

12-19-2014 , 06:08 PM
BTN= 18/14 CB50, CT50, AF4/2/6/2 after 500 hands

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 204 BB (VPIP: 13.25, PFR: 13.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 83)
MP+1: 104.23 BB (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 206.57 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 12)
BTN: 104.92 BB (VPIP: 18.38, PFR: 13.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.65, Hands: 423)
Hero (SB): 105.22 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
UTG: 74.39 BB (VPIP: 58.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG+1: 97.77 BB (VPIP: 22.94, PFR: 21.10, 3Bet Preflop: 12.05, Hands: 219)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.1 BB, Hero raises to 7.3 BB, fold, BTN calls 5.2 BB

Flop: (15.6 BB, 2 players) 8 Q K
Hero checks, BTN bets 7.45 BB, Hero raises to 19 BB, BTN calls 11.55 BB

Turn: (53.6 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (53.6 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets 39.5 BB, fold

BTN wins 51.19 BB

Do you think a set, JT or AT is plausible? I feel I should have bet the turn.
12-19-2014 , 06:43 PM
dont like c/r much.
definetly you should bet turn ap, dont see any point to check
12-19-2014 , 07:43 PM
yeah, dont XR here, just 3b triple

Spoiler:
12-19-2014 , 07:51 PM
Would you have bet all the way through without the cr on flop?
12-19-2014 , 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oliwood
BTN= 18/14 CB50, CT50, AF4/2/6/2 after 500 hands

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 204 BB (VPIP: 13.25, PFR: 13.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 83)
MP+1: 104.23 BB (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 206.57 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 12)
BTN: 104.92 BB (VPIP: 18.38, PFR: 13.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.65, Hands: 423)
Hero (SB): 105.22 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
UTG: 74.39 BB (VPIP: 58.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG+1: 97.77 BB (VPIP: 22.94, PFR: 21.10, 3Bet Preflop: 12.05, Hands: 219)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.1 BB, Hero raises to 7.3 BB, fold, BTN calls 5.2 BB

Flop: (15.6 BB, 2 players) 8 Q K
Hero checks, BTN bets 7.45 BB, Hero raises to 19 BB, BTN calls 11.55 BB

Turn: (53.6 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (53.6 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets 39.5 BB, fold

BTN wins 51.19 BB

Do you think a set, JT or AT is plausible? I feel I should have bet the turn.
I cbet flop and turn, river i x/fold i blockers with Q some combo of FD, than in this spot villain have less bluff than a standard situation.
12-21-2014 , 04:36 PM
but i dont know if with that agression it was right to fold...
12-22-2014 , 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oliwood
but i dont know if with that agression it was right to fold...
Which hands do you think you beat?

Which hands do you think you lose to?
12-26-2014 , 10:11 AM
when i see the title of the thread, i assume the answer is going to be yes
01-02-2015 , 08:45 PM
Check raising the flop and not firing on the turn seems odd. I would have fired on the turn. The chances that villain has KK or QQ are pretty slim since you have KQ, plus he would have likely re-raised you pre-flop or would have pushed on the flop over your check raise. If villain has 88 and beats you, that is just poker.

As for folding on the river, I would have done the same thing. By the river a lot of hands that could have possibly called the check raise on the flop are now beating you.

Also given villain's stats once the ten and ace came in, the board likely smashed his range.
01-02-2015 , 11:29 PM
You showed so much aggression and then why check the turn. He's going to check back like 90% of the time so you rarely get a check raise opportunity which is what I assume you were looking for?
01-05-2015 , 04:31 PM
Don't Cr the flop. Bet flop. Bet turn
01-18-2015 , 05:58 PM
thank you for your messages! i was not waiting for a checkraise on the turn, i was simply plaiing for pot control after the T came in, which i now also see is weird. i simply should have bet the flop and bet the turn.
01-20-2015 , 08:52 PM
A little new at the forums here, why are people saying not to check raise here? Is top two on the flop not strong enough? Or is this an issue of not making the pot too large? Too coordinated of a board? I'd really like to hear some thoughts on this.
01-22-2015 , 04:31 PM
XR makes it pretty hard to get max value out of the part of his range you beat.

Also, if you are going to XR, you should make it big enough so you can setup a turn shove. After all, a XR reps the nuts or a draw here right?

By barreling you can keep in the weaker part of his range and get 2-3 streets of value, which nets a higher net value in the long run.
01-26-2015 , 10:36 AM
Newb Q
What is a CT stat?
01-26-2015 , 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by universalpeace
Newb Q
What is a CT stat?
I'm guessing it's continuation bet turn, or something cheeky like that.
01-26-2015 , 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doofus Krondelly
I'm guessing it's continuation bet turn, or something cheeky like that.
4sure ty
01-26-2015 , 11:25 PM
Otf checking to aggro is good let him have the show c/r flop bet turn

      
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