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Old 01-19-2012, 07:33 PM   #1
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100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

CO - table mark - 51/11
BTN - regfish - 15/11 - pretty uncreative and fairly bad, has done weird $hit vs. me like l/3b AKs UTG and 3b my UTG open from MP with 88 100bb deep

pretty gross spot. sigh and call down/get it in or fold coz of standard FR theorem? i would never expect villain to have AK here ever, but as for worse Kx i'm not sure (both on line pre and flop min-raise b.s.)

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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($40)
Hero ($195)
UTG ($107)
UTG+1 ($100)
UTG+2 ($103)
MP1 ($50.10)
CO ($97.20)
BTN ($108)

Dealt to Hero Q K

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, fold, Hero raises to $5, CO calls $4, BTN calls $4

FLOP ($15.50) 4 K K

Hero bets $10.50, CO folds, BTN raises to $21, Hero calls $10.50

TURN ($57.50) 4 K K 3

Hero checks, BTN bets $41, Hero
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:54 PM   #2
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

If he is as uncreative as you describe I think it's a fold. It's a totally stupid line by him either way (whether he's bluffing or value-betting worse Kx or has the boat) but of the 3 44 seems the most likely. I'd probably also berate him in chat while timebanking.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:20 PM   #3
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

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If he is as uncreative as you describe I think it's a fold. It's a totally stupid line by him either way (whether he's bluffing or value-betting worse Kx or has the boat) but of the 3 44 seems the most likely. I'd probably also berate him in chat while timebanking.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #4
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If he is as uncreative as you describe I think it's a fold. It's a totally stupid line by him either way (whether he's bluffing or value-betting worse Kx or has the boat) but of the 3 44 seems the most likely. I'd probably also berate him in chat while timebanking.
i must admit, i'm a big fan of the smack-talk-timebank/trash-talk PTR wall line - seems to be pretty effective vs. this player type.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:40 PM   #5
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

I guess it would help to know how the other hands (l/3b AK and 88 3b from mp) played out. Why do you think he's not creative?

I'm not sure I like the 2/3 pot cbet, though I don't think it's absolutely horrible vs many opponents. I think a 1/2 pot bet keeps in a majority of the range that you beat, and it might also induce villain to bluff raise flop sometimes. His tendencies are really important here and we don't really know them. As played, I'd probably fold turn.
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:37 AM   #6
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

by posting this hand dont you think everybody just gonna bluff raise flop vs you now?

if you are folding this prepare to be exploited
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

in before rivrmeadream exploits this
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:47 AM   #8
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

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by posting this hand dont you think everybody just gonna bluff raise flop vs you now?

if you are folding this prepare to be exploited
who said i folded?
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in before rivrmeadream exploits this
and this haha
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:11 PM   #9
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

not folding.
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:08 AM   #10
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

If villain is bad, then he's fully capable of minraising otf both as a bluff w w/e and for "value" with a pp, then cbettin ott just bc.
How likely that is, idk, but I'm getting it in ott if I'm even the least bit suspicious villain is bad ever.

villain would be getting 4.4:1 on ur push

I like the minraise otf w 44 or AA, bc it reels u in more often, looks dumb and might induce tilt/spaz. *although idk hero's stats, so maybe not AA if ur LAG from bb

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Old 01-22-2012, 12:37 AM   #11
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

sigh/call down and punch monitor when he has exactly what you think he has
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Old 01-22-2012, 03:10 AM   #12
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

ship it down his mother****ing throat, lets go!
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:26 PM   #13
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

I don't feel like folding this..
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Old 01-28-2012, 09:10 PM   #14
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

Wats wrong with check raising AI ott or c/c c/c otr to induce the bluff? Since its a limped pot pf steal I don't think villain will give u credit on having a kang very often and try the float take it away line more than he will have a fool howse
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Old 01-28-2012, 10:45 PM   #15
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Re: 100nl - good trips vs. regfish repping 1 hand

c/rai ott would only be good if we expect him to take this line and call with worse kings. if we think his range is air-weighted letting him bluff rivers is far superior because we crush the board, and we'd only be getting it in with hands that crush us.
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