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Old 07-18-2012, 11:24 AM   #1
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Hand #1

MP1: 15/13 (300 hands)
SB: 18/9 (30 hands)


BTN: $100.00
SB: $115.34
BB: $100.00
Hero (UTG): $104.44
UTG+1: $79.53
UTG+2: $101.83
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $28.03
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP1 calls $3, 3 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.00) 7 3 6 (3 players)
SB checks,

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Hand #2
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

MP2: 19/13 (300 hands)
c-bet = 60% (10)


BTN: $213.97
SB: $106.11
BB: $74.00
UTG: $107.95
UTG+1: $236.06
UTG+2: $166.59
MP1: $201.59
MP2: $134.66
Hero (CO): $315.72

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A Q
4 folds, MP2 raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 7 5 2 (2 players)
MP2 checks,
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:01 PM   #2
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

1. unless you have a special reason to cbet, there is no point in doing it, just be a nit and c/f. they arent folding enough to make it ev+

2. once again, it depend on the opponent. when i have no ****ing clue on how my opponent plays, i just bet/fold, most of the people is c/f here, so it's definitely the best in vacuum
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:23 PM   #3
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

I don't see a reason to not bet either hand.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:03 PM   #4
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

1. I'm worried villains the regs range will be very pp orientated and will likely call me, and the SB looks fishy.

2. I'm debating whether to check/back and check/call the next street. I think I have the best hand but can't see anything worse calling.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:51 PM   #5
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

Against most floaty regs, I either ck/fold or plan on barreling the turn. Also betting OTR if I hit an A or K or if the board doesn't particularly hit my opponents range well.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:43 PM   #6
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2. I'm debating whether to check/back and check/call the next street. I think I have the best hand but can't see anything worse calling.
This is a bad reason not to bet.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:51 AM   #7
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

hand one it's multiway, our barrels rep a lot more strength, I'm cbetting flop with plans on barrelling most turns depending on any notes/reads on villains, and possibly 3 barrelling against some villains.

hand 2 a lot of people who check this kind of flop are ch/giving up, and I'd like to reinforce that habit. Additionally, we should be betting this with just about our entire range when checked to given board and positions. We would also prefer to not play the guessing game on subsequent streets if villain all of a sudden desires to fire and we haven't improved.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:08 AM   #8
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hand 2 a lot of people who check this kind of flop are ch/giving up, and I'd like to reinforce that habit.
Not sure how you are reinforcing it. If you always bet when he checks, wouldn't he be more likely to c/c or c/r since your range is weak?

This is not to say that betting is bad.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:30 AM   #9
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

just triple barrel every board until they adjust
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:07 AM   #10
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

I am reinforcing it by making sure they fold the flop after checking. If I don't bet the flop after they check, they can't fold, can they? If they get used to it, it will happen more often. And what is he ch/raising with that he doesn't just cbet considering the board, his stats, and our positions? I'd call bull**** if that happened. If I have a lot of history with villain, maybe I check it back sometimes, but generally, no. There's not much reason for most villains to check this flop with any value hands, including sets, since I should be calling the flop pretty widely (lots of pairs and floats in my range, not cbetting burns money).
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:19 PM   #11
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just triple barrel every board until they adjust
Even if both players call?
Can we expect most regs to fold out JJ/QQ by the river?

Should my image deter me from doing this? I'm a terrible spewtard.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:24 PM   #12
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Even if both players call?
Can we expect most regs to fold out JJ/QQ by the river?

Should my image deter me from doing this? I'm a terrible spewtard.
Well, having a 100% flop, turn, and river CB is somewhat exploitable, but you'll have a sick red line.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:18 PM   #13
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

Wicked redline is where it's at.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:46 AM   #14
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

no to both
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:00 AM   #15
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Re: 100NL - Cbet?

hand 1 yes/maybe no based on reads.

hand 2 3b
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