PFR 40/35 type fish
VILLAIN BTN reggy 18/14 5%3b
fold to cbet 30%
AF 4

200 hand sample


MP3: $223.01 (223 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $116.21 (116.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $100.50 (100.5 bb)
BB: $80 (80 bb)
UTG+1: $106.89 (106.9 bb)
UTG+2: $116.45 (116.5 bb)
MP1: $82.44 (82.4 bb)
MP2: $40 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
2 folds, MP1 raises to $2, MP2 calls $2, MP3 folds, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, Hero raises to $10.50, 4 folds, BTN calls $8.50

Flop: ($28) 6 4 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN calls $20

Turn: ($68) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $37.50, Hero


thought he would have a ton of TJ QJ 89 type hands and has narrow value range on turn

sets, 2pair raise flop? if so turn he has only floats and 99 88?
if we had AA what would we bet turn, bluff catch or c/f



yeah flame away any input appreciated (:

if you think he raises his sets otf, then 3 barrels>>>c/f flop>one/two barrels

if you have no information on this, then cf flop is usually the best.

i'd c/f aces there unless i have a reason to think his prf range is very loose and he is a bad mother****er who is willing to turn any hand worse than 2pair into a bluff. in that case, i'd calldown.


as played, you have the bottom of your range on a board that hits a lot on villains range. cf is definitely the best. just because he can be bluffing you here with TJ doesnt mean he bluffs enough.

though if he is actually taking this line with every QJ, then cc turn and river is the best, but i reaaaaaaaaaaally doubt he does.

Make it bigger pre - like $15.

Edit: ups, I misread action, I thought fish was pre caller. BTN's calling range should be way too stronger that fishes, so I would weight it more towards medium pp's, big broadways and some Ax type hands. I would still check flop with intention of giving up. This is very good board for him to bluff raise with and you even would have hard time if you had AA or KK.

As played I would check fold turn.

pre is too small, flop is too large.

as a default against a reg whose tendencies i'm unsure of i'd probably just c/f flop, but given we have 2 overs plus backdoor nfd i have no problem unloading the clip over 3 streets here. but if you ever want him to fold river in this manner your flop+turn bets have to be much smaller. as played just fold.

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yeah my sizing sucks & prob should of bet bet bet

thnx all

Bigger pre. Either c/f flop or triple barel on a decent runout. We have the BDFD but villain not keen on folding so probably best to c/f flop

you would c/f AA here?

i think he already answered your question.

i just want him to give some actual reasoning

i'd cc turn and river if i have a reason to believe he is calling prf and flop very wide. other reasons why i'd cc cc are because he usually raises sets otf and because he isn't vbetting 88 there (need stats/notes for those)

i'd cc turn cf river against weak tight players who are obviously not capable of reading hands, bluffing the river creatively or calling the flop light with the intention to bluff on later streets. they are usually betting the turn for protection with hands like 88 and checking on the river.

id cf on turn against a good player who isnt bluffing enough to make it profitable to cc cc
without reads, i'd cf turn, maybe i'd call a small bet

soz to reopen but just double checking

if we had AA vs unknown best line bet bet bet?

he never has JJ+ because he 3bs

does he call down with 99 88 A7?

oop you need to make it about $16 here. $10 is super weak. if mp1 calls, the whole table it calling and you're playing a 5way pot out of position with AKo which sucks hard.

assuming you make it $16 and the same action happens...

this flop smashes buttons range. he'd have to be fairly fishy to call a $16 bet with something that hits this, but the flop hits his range so much harder than yours. he either has a set, a draw, or an overpair, none of which are folding to a cbet.

I check for sure and probably give up unless he bets so small that I can see a turn.