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Old 04-25-2012, 06:44 AM   #1
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100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12729442

    BTN: $38.50 (38.5 bb)
    SB: $50 (50 bb)
    BB: $100 (100 bb)
    UTG+2: $100 (100 bb)
    MP1: $100 (100 bb)
    MP2: $103.21 (103.2 bb)
    Hero (MP3): $101.50 (101.5 bb)
    CO: $106.05 (106.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A A
    3 folds, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, BTN folds, SB raises to $12, BB folds, Hero calls $9, CO calls $9

    Flop: ($37) 4 8 J (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($37) 5 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $20, CO calls $20, SB folds

    River: ($77) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $40, CO raises to $74.05 and is all-in, Hero folds




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    Squeezer is 15/15, 3b from sb 13%, also folds to 4b 63%
    Villain is some meh reg, don't have a big sample in FR but i know he's really aggressive and insanely wide in this spot.
    I'm really unsure about my overall play so ideas on any street is appreciated.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 06:53 AM   #2
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    I mean if you don't wanna 4b, thats fine but on the flop there is very little further to be gained by continuing to slow play.

    As played, I couldnt imagine folding getting such absurd odds. What is it like 30 to win 190 or something?
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    Old 04-25-2012, 07:03 AM   #3
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

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    I mean if you don't wanna 4b, thats fine but on the flop there is very little further to be gained by continuing to slow play.

    As played, I couldnt imagine folding getting such absurd odds. What is it like 30 to win 190 or something?
    i didn't explain that, my bad. As i've said the CO is really wide here and he's really aggressive, i know he's more than capable to be basically turning every single hand he flatted preflop to a bluff in here and so I expect him to be betting here really often. It's a really random board so I don't think I can even get 1 street of value unless he actually has something (which happens quite rarely) so I thought that if he bets himself i'll get at least some value here or maybe he's even on tilt at the moment (which he is fairly often) and he'll give me even more.

    As for the river, I don't think he's ever bluffing here exactly because of the pot odds he'll be giving me and I don't really see a single value hand I can beat.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 07:04 AM   #4
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    what about CO stats?
    4 bet pre, ur flat oop with another guy in the pot is bad imo.
    bet flop for value after he checks.
    bet turn, bet less otr imo, fold now because we dont beat anything.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 07:50 AM   #5
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    4bet pre, c/f river.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 07:51 AM   #6
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    Fold and laugh at yourself for letting 9Tcc get there imo.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 08:52 AM   #7
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    I disagree with every street except turn. Pre and flop is FPS in its purest form
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    Old 04-25-2012, 12:50 PM   #8
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    if you think people are going to bluff a ton check/raise 7-high, don't check/call AA.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 12:54 PM   #9
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    alternately check/call third-pair.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 03:28 PM   #10
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    why is ever a flat pre bad? If CO is wide as i expect him, not only he will fold some of his part to a squeeze itself (leaving me with the shortie HU and he will definetely give me some value if not the whole stack while by 4beting I make him fold a ton of garbage) but may also give some value post, I'm not screaming strength when i flat after all.
    Why is river bet bad? Won't we get looked up by worse from time to time? And when we get raised we are almost 100% sure that we're beaten because of the odds again.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 06:17 PM   #11
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    CIB pre. Bet flop.
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    Old 04-25-2012, 07:04 PM   #12
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    In some spots flatting pre may well not be awful, but not betting the flop is just asking to get absolutely arse raped by a 12" dick imo
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    Old 04-26-2012, 04:04 AM   #13
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

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    In some spots flatting pre may well not be awful, but not betting the flop is just asking to get absolutely arse raped by a 12" dick imo
    hehe, point taken
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    Old 04-26-2012, 10:15 AM   #14
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    People that squeeze really light tend to have a wide value/shoving range as well. So I'd be 4-betting AA here almost every time.

    Villain might be willing to stack TT+ and AQ...unless you're some nit with like a 1.5% 4-bet range.
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    Old 04-26-2012, 11:02 AM   #15
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    Re: 100NL AA squeezed 3way pot

    just pot shove river instead of 1/2 pot and then fold or whatever.
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