Even worse than the golf media trying to make sense of Tiger is the non-golf media thinking that they have a relevant opinion. No Michael Smith, Stephen A Smith, Michael Wilbon, etc etc, you don't know anything and nobody who actually follows golf cares what you think

I agree as much as I am not a Tiger fan never saw him as a quitter.

Though let me add he creates his own issue here. Why could he not have stopped and done a quick interview with any reporter that might have been there. He could have said "I am having some issues with my achilles and not sure what it is. It has been a long road and back and do not want to risk anything further till it is medically looked at. Thank You I need to get treatment now"

I get a kick out of the media also giving us a sky shot of Tiger driving down the road. Reminded me of OJ. I am surprised they did not cut out from golf and show us his drive home

Total frustration is my guess. He didn't want to go inside for sure and give an interview so he knew he could have a word via his people quick. Probably a bad call not simply saying something in the parking lot but also a nut low point potentially too. At that specific moment he didn't know what the diagnosis was and could have really been fighting in internal battle....who knows, he might have just been crying like a pussy and didn't have it in him to give an interview without really breaking down. Because, not only have I seen Tiger in shorts, I have seen him cry on the golf course.

He was probably 15 or so playing in an AJGA at the Woodlands. I was on the first tee and had a few minutes and saw him coming up 18 and I had never seen him before. He airmailed the green by 30 yards and when he walked by me he had a frustration tear in his eye. He then proceeded to hit the most completely dead chip/flop shot to about 6 inches....and I have been hooked ever since.

If you haven't ever cried from frustration from this game you haven't given it your everything. I know it has brought me to tears god knows how many times.

[QUOTE=CT007;32031009] Sure…I am obviously bored at work based on my post count today!

Haney has one way and one way only to teach. I have watched him give the exact same lesson to a 6’2” stud and a 5’6” globe. How could those two people possibly be working on the same thing? Haney has a method and he believes there is only one way to swing the golf club yet all people aren’t built the same and have different abilities. For him to get ANY credit for Tiger’s success is like Mozart’s music teacher taking credit for his abilities, if not even a further stretch since maybe that music teacher could actually teach.

As for the rest I don’t really watch them as I don’t want any ideas in my head. I am a constant tinkerer but I really like the course I have been on with Chris Como (shameless plug) my instructor here in Dallas. I truly believe he is one of, if not THE, most knowledgeable instructors on the planet.

Ive cried. It was high school golf and our team set every single individual and team school record (and like 4 tournament records) and should have contended for a state title. Instead we just hacked around in the district tournament finishing tied for 3rd, and lost in the team playoff. I also missed individual qualifying by 2 strokes. Brutal end to the only team sport I ever cared about.

(i know, i know, high school. but im not good enough to play competitively beyond that)

Does Haney coach any big names at the moment?

I can't stand his show either because he's so smug while he instructs

Yeah that show is unwatchable

When I took a Butch seminar in '96 or so when he was coaching #1 Norman and Tiger all he really talked about were:

A) How good Norman's short game was...

and

B) How you have to match the swing to the body and not the other way around. He repeated this mantra over and over while taking swipes at other more famous instructors and their systems. (primarily Leadbetter) Then he would make comparisons like "how could you ever expect Craig Stadler to swing like Tom Lehman"? He was arrogant in his delivery but seemed almost mad that other instructors had become richer than him (at the time) by pedaling a 1 swing approach and was using that forum to put that across. Can't say I blame him.

No.

That is the reason for people teaching a 1 swing approach. It is something that can be sold to the masses. By that I mean you can have Hank Haney golf ranches all over the country (which he does) teaching YOUR method. If you are a teacher who actually takes the person getting the lessons body and talents into consideration then you can't have a fleet of instructors nationwide all paying up the ladder to you. He has instructors all over the place paying him a % of lessons and then he owns the range and gets all the proceeds from that...Haney that is.

Butch was on Feherty last night and it was interesting to listen to him. I didn't catch all of it, but he said the reason they chose Vegas was it is the only place they can charge an ass load and get away with it...I read into that to explicitly mean that since he is at a casino course he can charge the casino an ass load and they will send their whales. Then once the whale loves taking lessons from The Butch Harmon they will come back and personally pay his massive rate or they will continue to get the casino to pay it. But since he doesn't believe in the 1 method way that is his best chance to really get paid since he can't have a fleet of instructors in a ponzi scheme all paying up the ladder.

I think it's better to drive off without saying anything when you're in a frame of mind that could potentially lead to saying something you'd regret.

He's been through a lot the past few years and one can only imagine what was going through his head when he was leaving the course. For all he knew he could have needed surgery again.

And ffs he released a statement like 20 minutes after leaving the course (after he had already told the PGA press guy that it was his left leg). Everybody wants all the information NOW NOW NOW or else **** that guy.

SOOOOO TRUE. I know he does owe us a ton since he has $$$ because of his status in the world, but he does not owe us everything.

So wrong Mr entitled has to beckon the Medics for some ice and could have easily made a comment. Trust me has faced more pressure packed situations in his life than answering a simple question.

This me setting it up and you hitting it is getting routine. Sure makes you wonder what the % golf lessons are doomed for failure? Over 50%? I'm afraid it might be. I guess you can say Butch has taken the moral way out so to speak. Well sort of.... when I tried to get on Rio Secco when he first opened in '97 the best I could do was get on the range and even then I had to pay when the course was completely empty. Hotel guests and VIPS only at that time. Ironic because the year before I walked a few holes with Butch while following Tiger in the LV Invit. I walked up to him and told him I was at his seminar up in Canada earlier that year we ended up walking 13-18 together. Tiger shot 64 that day and was putting lights out but we ended up talking more about his attempts to shorten Tiger's short iron swings which were his weakness when he joined the tour. No way Butch could blend in the crowd now like he did then.

My teaching mentor spoke less at a lesson than anyone I've ever seen. He also brought about the best results I've ever seen to a broad cross section of players. Simple swing keys and analogies were all he would use. I once asked him when to prune my apple trees he replied "when the shears are in your hand" It was his way of remembering you could do it any time of year. I aspire to this level of thinking. Guys would come in and say "I took a lesson from you 20 or 30 years ago and I haven't needed a lesson since. (ie it was that good) He would look over at me, give me a little grin and walk right out to the range with the guy for another lesson. As always with barely a word.

ESPN just reported Tiger plans to be ready for the Masters

Hasn't officially withdrawn from Bay Hill yet, has he?

Not that I've seen.

On GMA this morning he said he was planning on playing Bay Hill. And he's on Scott Van Pelt's show here in a few minutes.

Hes playing next week and masters

Why was he on GMA?

Looking for lady friends.

Tiger Feeling Confident

Promoting TW13 for the most part I believe.

He did make a comment (he said it was his left leg) so I don't know wtf you're talking about.

And I'm sure you all heard about the guy who called in seeing Tiger texting while driving away from the course, and also for not using his turn signal while changing lanes?

Either I got trolled by ESPN or that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in quite some time lulz.

seriously. why would leo take the time to actually call that in