Tiger "<tuq" Woods Thread (aka Golf Forum Hamsterdam) - Page 2

lozen · 02-25-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerMoney

Is Tiger GOAT?

Yes

Do you care that he had 13 mistresses?

Yes Cheating SOB more that he did it while his wife was pregnant

Is he going to be as dominant as he once was?

Never

What do you think of his new swing change?

Too Complex Beg Butch to take u back

Is Tiger a good guy?

No he is a disgrace on and off the course

Does Tiger act like a gentleman on the course?

See Above

Does Tiger get enough TV coverage?

He really does not have control of this so cant fault him for it but yes

Would you like to see him get run over by a steamroller?

No but I like him to lose it all and see if he has the fortitude to come back

For me Tiger was one of the greatest of his era. Though I question if he was clean. He is done and finished in my opinion. Cant handle Sunday pressure at all anymore. Needs to be more like Phil on/off the course.

BeerMoney · 02-25-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ship---this

Oops. Seems like a reasonable misinterpretation.

Stand by my answers regardless.

It definitely was a reasonable interpretation. I was lol'ing at the fact I didn't give any explanation for the thread.

TBH, I don't mind reading some stuff about Tiger, but when someone not- Tiger swears, and there's a whole discussion of how that would be treated if it was Tiger swearing, in some totally unrelated thread, I think it's a bit unnecessary...

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Can someone post some of Tiger's more ridiculous stats? To me, the Grandslam , and the six consecutive USGA tourneys are his most impressive accomplishments.

leoslayer · 02-25-2012, 11:06 PM

when someone not- Tiger swears, and there's a whole discussion of how that would be treated if it was Tiger swearing

^^^^ i dont have a whole lot of problem with his actions on the course. i dont like the spit on the green . or if he damages the course.

my problems stem from once he steps outside the ropes. the deal i saw with the kid, if he had done that while playing i would have overlooked that. but walking from the range to the putting green on monday is diff.

Gandolfandiari · 02-26-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BeerMoney

Is Tiger GOAT?

absolutely.....the best golf talent that i have ever seen play the game. That includes film which i have seen on Jack and Arnie

Do you care that he had 13 mistresses?

Not one bit. Him playing GOAT golf which is the only thing i care about has nothing to do with his personal life.

Is he going to be as dominant as he once was?

No, but he will pass Jack in majors when it is all said and done.

What do you think of his new swing change?

I could care less about Tiger making adjustments in the media. He knows more about his won swing and has a coach as a figure head. I believe that. He is fine.

Is Tiger a good guy?

Don't care at all. I want to see the best player ever play golf. Bottom line.

Does Tiger act like a gentleman on the course?

Don't confuse his caddie's past etiquette with who Tiger is......he wants to win and that is the bottom line.

Does Tiger get enough TV coverage?

NO....and any TV big wig will agree. He is the biggest draw and they all know it.

Would you like to see him get run over by a steamroller?

NO he is the GOAT

ReidLockhart · 02-26-2012, 03:00 AM

I truly hope Scott makes it big and this tiger/steamroller answer comes back to destroy his image, sending him into a downward spiraling drunken fall from greatness.

Spenda · 02-26-2012, 05:53 AM

So basically if you're a Tiger fan you don't care that he cheated on his pregnant wife.

That's what I've learned from this thread.

I'll always be a Tiger hater but I will also admit TV golf is a helluva lot more exciting when he is in contention. It's also ridiculously annoying when he is not in contention but still has every shot of his shown live.

**Rushmore** · 02-26-2012, 10:57 AM

Watching Woods now, I seriously doubt he can win another major.

I will keep watching, but there is nothing even remotely special about his results.

By "results," I mean "the results of any given shot."

Anyway, it just looks so obvious he isn't even in the same universe as he was before. I do not see a comfortable, confident player putting swings on the ball. I see a guy who has totally screwed his head up with way too much crap.

Here's a good example: every time he hits a ball poorly, his shoulders drop and his hands come off the club, etc. immediately. EVERY TIME. It's almost as if his reaction to his shot is right there, lurking, and ultimately becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

lozen · 02-26-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spenda

So basically if you're a Tiger fan you don't care that he cheated on his pregnant wife.

That's what I've learned from this thread.

I'll always be a Tiger hater but I will also admit TV golf is a helluva lot more exciting when he is in contention. It's also ridiculously annoying when he is not in contention but still has every shot of his shown live.

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Watching Woods now, I seriously doubt he can win another major.

I will keep watching, but there is nothing even remotely special about his results.

By "results," I mean "the results of any given shot."

Anyway, it just looks so obvious he isn't even in the same universe as he was before. I do not see a comfortable, confident player putting swings on the ball. I see a guy who has totally screwed his head up with way too much crap.

Here's a good example: every time he hits a ball poorly, his shoulders drop and his hands come off the club, etc. immediately. EVERY TIME. It's almost as if his reaction to his shot is right there, lurking, and ultimately becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Amazing that anyone can think he does not get enough TV Coverage. Heck yesterday we had to see highlights of Tigers first two days in Match Play. Though to this day I am still amazed at how long it took before the media found out about his cheating ways (Wife)

schu_22 · 02-26-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerMoney

Is Tiger GOAT?
Yes. Nobody has ever dominated the game like Tiger did for a decade. Most likely, nobody ever will. He is so good that his game moved into the spectacle realm, with the likes of, say, Michael Jordan.
Do you care that he had 13 mistresses?
Nope. Don't give a **** about his personal life
Is he going to be as dominant as he once was?
Nope.
What do you think of his new swing change?
I like it way better than the Haney swing. But I dont think the swing is his major problem right now. His putting is atrocious
Is Tiger a good guy?
Probably not. But at least he isn't a total prick/douche in public all the time like Pat Perez or Ian Poulter
Does Tiger act like a gentleman on the course?
Sometimes yes, other times definitely no
Does Tiger get enough TV coverage?
I would watch a 24-hour Tiger Network
Would you like to see him get run over by a steamroller?
No man, he's probably my favorite athlete of all time and definitely one of my top 3. He got me obsessed with this great game 8 years ago. So, no.

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where's leo

leoslayer · 02-26-2012, 01:25 PM

ok shu so you say because he dominated over a short period of time. well again he dom inated over a bunch of soft pussies who really dont have to win.

its no different than mike tyson. yep he was good he dominated a bunch of pussies. i dont hear many folks putting him ahead of ali.

jones was pretty dominate over a short period of time as well.

NxtWrldChamp · 02-26-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerMoney

Is Tiger GOAT?
Yes, though I understand that is debatable. I kinda like what Ship said that Jack is the greatest major champion, and Tiger is the greatest golfer of all time, though the only problem I have with that statement at this particular point in time is that to this point in his career Tiger has played 56 majors as a pro and has 14 wins. At 56 majors Jack had 14 wins also. If Tiger doesn't catch Jack, I would be ok with the statement. If he catches Jack any argument against Tiger is GOAT dies instantly.

Do you care that he had 13 mistresses?
Not from a golf perspective but I do think it was a terrible, even more so now that I am expecting my first little one any day now.

Is he going to be as dominant as he once was?
Not ruling it out.

What do you think of his new swing change?
Great. Really like what he's trying to do and you can really see Trackman is playing a decent role, not only from his action but he also talks about "the numbers" a little bit. No doubt that he is hitting the ball infinitely better than even 6 months ago, just needs his short game to come around.

Is Tiger a good guy?
At this point probably not based on how he treated his wife. Outside of that I have no idea.

Does Tiger act like a gentleman on the course?
Like Brocktoon said, he acts well within the acceptable range for a PGA Tour player. I'm fine with players showing some emotion, Tiger is just held to different standards than everyone else.

Does Tiger get enough TV coverage?
From viewers perspective, yes, obviously. From the corporate sponsors perspective maybe not. I took an "Economics in Sports" class in college, and the most interesting thing that I learned that semester is that compared to what they bring in, athletes don't get paid anywhere near what they are "worth". Certainly that is ridiculous for us non-athletes to think about but I recall them referencing Jordan during his last few seasons. At that point in his career he was single handedly selling out EVERY SINGLE game he played. He was already the highest paid athlete, and he should have been making multiples of his salary based on how much $ he was bringing in for the NBA and the owners of every team he played.

Would you like to see him get run over by a steamroller?
No, wouldn't even wish that on Tuq.

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Originally Posted by BeerMoney

Can someone post some of Tiger's more ridiculous stats? To me, the Grandslam , and the six consecutive USGA tourneys are his most impressive accomplishments.

142 straight events without missing the cut comes to mind.

Winning the US Open by 15 and the Masters by 12.

Winning 7 starts in a row in 99-00 and 6 in a row in 06-07

328 professional starts and 96 wins for a winning percentage of 29.3%. Up until his personal life disaster those numbers were 295 starts and 95 wins to be just a shade under winning 1/3rd of all professional starts.

Comparatively, for Jack Nicklaus, up until the year of his last win(86) he had 506 starts and 94 professional wins for a win percentage of 18.7%. Someone page me when Tiger goes 0 for his next 186 tournaments and has a worse winning % than Jack.

leoslayer · 02-26-2012, 01:50 PM

nxt you say they have the same amount of wins at 14 thru 56. how many seconds did jack have at that point how many thirds.

look at the absolute nobodys tiger has lost to.

NxtWrldChamp · 02-26-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by leoslayer

nxt you say they have the same amount of wins at 14 thru 56. how many seconds did jack have at that point how many thirds.

look at the absolute nobodys tiger has lost to.

Not going to waste much time arguing with you over this, also please refrain from sending me any more pointless PM's attempting to show how right you are.

Here are some simple assumptions that I would like to throw at you. Athletes in EVERY sport today are better than they were 40 years ago for various reason. Infinitely more people play golf competitively and pursue it as a career today compared to 40 years ago. If people disagree with that, which you appear to, then wow. If you don't disagree then it would make sense that Tiger's domination over a larger and better golfing population is pretty powerful.

Brocktoon · 02-26-2012, 02:01 PM

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also please refrain from sending me any more pointless PM's stating how right you are.

LOL.

Leo, did Tiger Woods run over your dog or something? Your hate is unfathomably strong.

leoslayer · 02-26-2012, 02:26 PM

^^ uh no. thinking he is walking excrement is one thing. analyzing where he stands in the history of golf is another. kinda like guys who confuse love with sex. love is love sex is sex.

tiger as a person is one thing i really dont put my dislike of him in my analysis.

@nxt man im sorry i sent you a pm as we didnt have a tiger only thread at the time and since he was out of the turny i just wanted to finish the point without taking up more space.

who said players dont get better? i never did. but i think you are way off when yu talk about the older players. you act like they couldnt hit the ball.
i contend if you took the all time greats and put them in the game today at the age of 20 they would have won just as much.

heres an analogy. you take alabamas football team next year and put them in the sunbelt
conference. alabama will crush. if you take any of those sunbelt teams and take them back to the 70s and put them in the sec they would crush (if they got to keep all the advances in football over the years and the 70's sec teams had only access to the knowledge of the period)

then you can look at the alabama team of the 70's playing other sec teams of the 70's everybody has equal access to knowledge.

who is playing tougher competition bama in 70's in sec or bama '12 playing sunbelt?