Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Sports and Games > Golf

Notices

Golf Discuss the game of golf

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-22-2015, 11:45 PM   #1
veteran
 
squashington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: we used to wait
Posts: 2,058
Swing Advice

Looking for some swing advice and drills to practice.

Background is I played a fair amount a decade+ ago, gave up the game and started playing again recently. Typically shoot around 83-86. Solid off the tee and around the greens without many dbl bogeys. However, I'm an inconsistent iron striker with no distance. High FIR, low GIR. Typical misses are short right. (weak push/fade) Divots are typically solid and after the ball but pretty wide and long. If I do hit my irons flush/straight I tend to pull the ball.

Never seen my swing on cam til recently and now I realize how flat it is. I'm guessing that's part of my distance problem in addition to losing some strength and flexibility in recent years. I've lost around 15 yards per club since my peak. Feel like if I could work on my iron game and strength/flexibility I could be high single digits next year. Tired of hitting 5i+ into every green.

Any advice, drills, etc would be much appreciated.

PW DTL:


PW:


Driver DTL:


Driver:
squashington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 12:06 AM   #2
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Shark Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Beckinsale is not an actual GOAT
Posts: 9,513
Re: Swing Advice

How tall are you? Your pw seems too long for you and may be forcing you to go a little more inside; ultimately, your club path is obv your problem here (it changes drastucally when you get to the top of your swing). I'm sure others will chime in with more productive advice. gl.
Shark Doctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 12:13 AM   #3
veteran
 
squashington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: we used to wait
Posts: 2,058
Re: Swing Advice

5'8" and play with stock JPX825s. Recently started standing a little closer to the ball because it seems to keep my backswing less flat. Also seemed like my toe was up when I stood further away.

Hit driver around 210-230. 7i 130-135, PW 95-105.
squashington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 03:54 PM   #4
stranger
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Vista, CA
Posts: 6
Re: Swing Advice

Yeah, Don't take this the wrong as it isn't a criticism, but you have developed an man swing. You're losing all the power by dropping your club so flat and trying to come around in a big looping motion.

From what I have learned that tends to come from the idea of constantly trying to play a draw is that what your goal is at this point ? Trying to play a draw on all clubs?

The last video makes it super evident on how low your follow through is as well. Hands and club need to be higher at finishing point to generate a better follow through (which generates more power). Do you have a full speed swing in there you could post with your irons?
NighTLesS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2015, 04:28 PM   #5
journeyman
 
Showshone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 398
Re: Swing Advice

To help with consistency maybe try to shorten your backswing drastically. Like feeling you're only making a 3/4 swing. This wil also help with implementing changes since you're only focusing on a smaller swing.

Like others have said your path is too horizontal. Try feeling to hold the the grip of the club and your hands just behind above your head in the top of your backswing.

I'm no pro but these are the things that immediately come to mind watching your swing.

You have some good things also like you're takeaway and your left arm staying straight on the backswing.
Showshone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2015, 01:01 AM   #6
veteran
 
squashington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: we used to wait
Posts: 2,058
Re: Swing Advice

Quote:
Originally Posted by NighTLesS View Post
Yeah, Don't take this the wrong as it isn't a criticism, but you have developed an man swing. You're losing all the power by dropping your club so flat and trying to come around in a big looping motion.

From what I have learned that tends to come from the idea of constantly trying to play a draw is that what your goal is at this point ? Trying to play a draw on all clubs?

The last video makes it super evident on how low your follow through is as well. Hands and club need to be higher at finishing point to generate a better follow through (which generates more power). Do you have a full speed swing in there you could post with your irons?
It's sad you left out the word 'old' in "developed an man swing" yet I knew what you were saying. Hah.

I rarely try to play any shape but I know what you're saying about trying to play a draw. Think I developed this flat plane after reading Hogan's book and trying to play a draw years ago before I quit playing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Showshone View Post
To help with consistency maybe try to shorten your backswing drastically. Like feeling you're only making a 3/4 swing. This wil also help with implementing changes since you're only focusing on a smaller swing.

Like others have said your path is too horizontal. Try feeling to hold the the grip of the club and your hands just behind above your head in the top of your backswing.

I'm no pro but these are the things that immediately come to mind watching your swing.

You have some good things also like you're takeaway and your left arm staying straight on the backswing.
Yeah, backswing definitely needs shortened. Think that's developed from trying to gain more distance.

Whenever I practice a steeper backswing (usually indoors in front of mirror), my right armpit has a gap. I've always been told a glove shouldn't fall out of the armpit. Recently I've been told that's a dated notion and as long as you get it tucked back on the downswing, it's fine...?

Also, I read on here about squaring up with your ass touching a wall and practicing the backswing to not touch the wall behind you. Seems extremely steep...?
squashington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2015, 03:45 PM   #7
centurion
 
Fountain City Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 103
Re: Swing Advice

Quote:
Originally Posted by squashington View Post
Also, I read on here about squaring up with your ass touching a wall and practicing the backswing to not touch the wall behind you. Seems extremely steep...?
Inches in a golf swing feel like miles, so any change will feel extreme. I don't know if it is right or wrong, but I like to think of levitating my hands in the backswing.
Fountain City Kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2015, 01:39 AM   #8
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 46
Re: Swing Advice

Here's a couple points to work on.
1 - Let's work on your head movement in the backswing. Look how far back it slides. Hard to be consistent with that. Instead try to make a centered turn and slide less.

2 - One big reason you are lacking power is how late your weight shift forward is. Let's have 90%+ of your weight forward by impact. Drive your hips forward to start your downswing rather than solely dropping your arms. Then power your arms through impact.

A couple other notes: Your backswing actually isn't too long. It looks a lot longer because your wrist at the top is extremely cupped. Could be an issue but not necessarily. I think the takeaway is barely too flat on its own. But on your downswing you drop your arms and make it even flatter. That's fine with a steeper swing but not when you have a flatter backswing. I think you are so scared of coming over the top that you are dropping way inside.

I think your immediate priority should be practicing in front of a mirror making a centered turn and in making at least a slightly more vertical backswing. Once you have ingrained that feel work a bit on not rerouting your arms so far inside on the downswing and on driving your lower body forward at the start of the downswing.

Last edited by smaug81243; 06-25-2015 at 01:45 AM.
smaug81243 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 01:46 AM   #9
old hand
 
Suit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,966
Re: Swing Advice

Besides the obvious flatness you have which is limiting your power, it seems to me that your hands slow down at the bottom of your swing and the club passes them. Look at the PW face on swing and stop it at the 0:10 - 0:11 mark. It's like your left hand has stopped and your right is lifting the club upward. I'd like to see your arms and club shaft all still in a straight line at 0:11. Losing a lot of power there.

Oh, and your left foot spins out and ends up with your toe pointing at your target. Maybe because your weight is too mush on the heel? I'm not sure on that, but may have something to do with what someone else said about weight transfer.
Suit is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online